| 21 Nov 2025 |
 Vladimír Čunát | staging-next has the advantage that it gets more things in cache (assuming you do the gtk4 update) | 11:05:06 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | its the cheapest gtk4 app one can build | 11:05:13 |
 uep | error: Cannot build '/nix/store/p8qi0c1z1mv0x67pwd9p0s64y4dsma9z-gjs-1.86.0.drv'.
| 11:05:29 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | actually zenity on staging-next is already cached | 11:05:34 |
| uep | yep, that's the one, and it dies in plain staging-next too | 11:05:42 |
| Vladimír Čunát | you can download it:
https://hydra.nixos.org/build/314110198 | 11:05:53 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | launches for me | 11:06:18 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | 
Download image.png | 11:06:19 |
| uep | bitten by negative cache i guess, but i'm more worried why it's failing | 11:06:23 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | just current staging-next | 11:06:37 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (I don't know what's wrong with the build, but it's surely unrelated to the issue at hand.) | 11:06:38 |
| uep | yeah | 11:06:52 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | we really should consider nulling out zenity in sdl3. Its there to display an error emssage if sdl3 fails to create a wayland window, and to act as a file picker when portals are unavailable. Both not super critical. | 11:08:08 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/459808 will help too, but not for this issue here | 11:09:07 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | the sdl closure is a mess rn | 11:09:14 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | way too large | 11:09:20 |
| uep | cleared ~/.cache/nix and we're progressing again | 11:14:19 |
| uep | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever | 11:14:52 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i hate slow german dsl, makes updates so painful slow | 11:16:06 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | like come on, 60 Mb/s for a 25 gig system closure sucks. | 11:16:44 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | so it'll be a while until my system is on staging-next, i'll report once that is done | 11:17:37 |
 K900 | Can I have a weirdly philosophical take | 11:19:55 |
| K900 | Linux software generally sucks at telling the user what went wrong | 11:20:04 |
| K900 | SDL goes out of its way to have fallbacks for fallbacks for those cases | 11:20:12 |
| uep | i have webkitgtks and firefox and obs to build, will be a while.. will leave it overnight | 11:20:12 |
| K900 | I think we should respect thta | 11:20:16 |
| uep | I mean I could take them out of the system for this test, but whaever | 11:20:55 |
| Vladimír Čunát | After the night all linux binaries should be in cache.nixos.org, too. | 11:41:26 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | uh i just got a gtk4 build fail on pkgsi686Linux | 11:43:42 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | thats fun | 11:43:47 |
