| 26 Dec 2025 |
emily | I am very much taking a break, but if there is any particularly major Darwin thing in this cycle I can potentially offer "giving my best guess diagnosis/proposed solution" levels of help | 13:40:14 |
emily | sometimes I wish we had a cleaner separation of "low-risk security/bug fix" staging merges and "major breaking/risky" staging merges so we could choose to run low-impact cycles and time the big stuff | 13:41:22 |
emily | (though I'm loathe to see even more branches) | 13:41:48 |
K900 | I can look later | 13:42:35 |
K900 | Currently migraine | 13:42:40 |
emily | (feel like we are at a scale where it makes sense to start thinking about explicit rollup decisions a la Rust, but it's tough, allocating build/triage resources for jobsets, and not like I have the time to put in the work…) | 13:49:34 |
vcunat | I'm getting ready to start 25.11 in the meantime. There's almost nothing queued for 25.05. | 14:05:44 |
Grimmauld (any/all) | there is lots of python and gcc 15 fails, kinda painful | 14:21:00 |
Grimmauld (any/all) | pydantic is biggest break on aarch64, probably just needs a bump to 2.12 versions | 14:22:19 |
Grimmauld (any/all) | (2.12.5 probably) | 14:22:55 |
emily | oh, this was both Python 3.14 and GCC 15? | 14:25:16 |
K900 | Yep | 14:25:20 |
emily | end of December really doesn't seem like a great time for that… 😅 | 14:25:27 |
K900 | Honestly | 14:27:01 |
K900 | GCC15 was surprisingly not horrible | 14:27:05 |
emily | we did a lot of prep | 14:27:23 |
leona | i just fixed pdantic | 14:27:51 |
leona | * i just fixed pydantic | 14:27:53 |
leona | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/474347 | 14:27:55 |
K900 | Even including that | 14:28:24 |
leona | 2.12.5 doesn't include that commit | 14:28:25 |
K900 | Though it was a good idea to do early | 14:28:29 |
| zimward changed their display name from zimward to zimward @ 39c3. | 15:49:10 |
| jasper changed their display name from jappie to jappie @ 39c3. | 15:49:41 |
hexa | I submitted python-updates enabling python314 into staging on november 25th | 16:21:20 |
emily | not blaming anyone for merge timing ofc | 16:21:45 |
emily | ("it's always safe to merge to staging" is the idea after all) | 16:21:59 |
hexa | won't fix django 4.2 on 3.13 and newer | 16:22:52 |
hexa | tried to find motivation, but couldn't | 16:23:06 |
hexa | 4.2 support officially ended with 3.12, so everything from here would be downstream patch mangling | 16:23:37 |