| 9 Jul 2021 |
 Vladimír Čunát | I'd wait a couple days; perhaps someone will pick it up, e.g. @thefloweringash. | 18:57:45 |
 hexa | pushing 3.9.6 bump in a bit, so we can give that s hot | 19:22:14 |
| hexa | * pushing 3.9.6 bump in a bit, so we can give that shot | 19:22:16 |
|  Andreas Schrägle joined the room. | 20:17:52 |
| hexa | sadly that went nowhere, but a good time to prepare cpython updates for the next stagind run | 20:55:40 |
| 11 Jul 2021 |
|  rosariopulella joined the room. | 15:45:04 |
| hexa | staging-next-21.05 merged | 21:41:42 |
| 17 Jul 2021 |
| hexa | stdenv and darwin-incompatible changes is what keeps on giving | 12:06:00 |
| hexa | * stdenv and darwin-incompatible changes are what keeps on giving | 12:06:08 |
| hexa | it's not even funny | 12:06:12 |
| Vladimír Čunát | We have lots of major updates in this iteration (glibc, python, perl) so maybe it's exceptional. Or we'll need to amend the mass-rebuild workflow somehow. | 12:16:16 |
| Vladimír Čunát | One complication is that OfBorg is basically unusable on anything targeting staging. One could test at least the basic package by filing a PR against master and retargeting it later, but that's not very nice. That way we could get e.g. better pre-testing for x86_64-darwin (and hopefully aarch64-darwin soon). | 12:20:59 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (Well, unusuable just for trying builds; for eval-time checks it's still good.) | 12:22:15 |
 Sandro | What if something does not work? That workflow has a roundtrip of ages and debugging is not really possible if more than a framework of missing. | 12:30:07 |
| Vladimír Čunát | It would be nice if one could get at least a macOS VM easily. | 12:31:28 |
| hexa | risicle has a vm setup with macos that he bootstraps in 20 minute when he needs it | 12:32:19 |
| hexa | I thought about setting one up as well, but then I'd be digging more into macOS than I'm comfortable with anyway | 12:33:42 |
| 19 Jul 2021 |
|  lovesegfault joined the room. | 19:24:46 |
| lovesegfault | I'm going to try to bump binutils once we land this staging | 19:27:48 |
| lovesegfault | Hopefully it's not a complete nightmare | 19:27:56 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Uh, maybe a separate jobset for that, after previous experience IIRC. | 19:30:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Though 2.36.1 might not be too risky. | 19:33:58 |
| lovesegfault | Yeah, it definitely needs its own jobset | 19:36:06 |
| lovesegfault | This is a good reminder, I need to finish my script for uploading tarballs | 19:36:21 |
| lovesegfault | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Binutils-2.37-Released | 19:53:40 |
|  thefloweringash joined the room. | 23:14:52 |
| 20 Jul 2021 |
|  FRidh joined the room. | 08:56:54 |
|  wentasah joined the room. | 16:38:12 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I merged staging-next now. I won't be this active around it for the next couple of weeks. | 20:12:54 |
| 21 Jul 2021 |
 jonringer | I'm visiting family, won't be super active | 04:09:57 |
