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@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all) i was building the fancy llvm-native stuff, but a lot of things are broken there. 09:23:55
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin You mean musl with gcc15 ? 09:26:00
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)yes09:26:08
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzinNo PR, it starts pretty much breaking with just (changing default to 15): https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/440456/commits/5264e09b60c020160780793fa0459b5448646efc09:26:51
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)how far does it get on glibc?09:28:07
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin I mean, at least it builds stdenv, which you can't say with pkgsMusl.stdenv 09:28:56
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)OH GOD09:29:04
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)okay fine, i started an stdenv build09:30:20
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)i have a suspicion this will suck09:31:04
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin I can write up what I had fixes for including stdenv, gnumake, which and groff.
Iirc I stopped at patchutils that required update to one of versions in nixpkgs and backporting some huge commit to the other 2.
And generally I am not sure what even worked before on musl.
09:38:55
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)i got a full interactive graphical nixos session on musl09:39:25
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)admittedly with a lot of patches and overlays09:39:41
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)that is the tree against which i'll try09:39:54
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)https://git.grimmauld.de/Grimmauld/grimm-musl09:40:13
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)i do think i'll need patchutils to even just start patching nixpkgs....09:42:19
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)we'll see09:42:25
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)(tbf i am doing the nixpkgs patching using glibc packages because i can't be bothered to build those from source twice)09:43:29
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you want to look at what I had before:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7b77cc83217d40c04fa65c00b215a72515d23076 - musl boostrap update
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/441527 - perl fix (should be on staging already)
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7fa91c674ef4bfb4ba26a3ef41a13f6c036c1631 - gnumake
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/41cf7647bb04699fc9d7067f0e7b3ed6d99e8804 - which
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9c90d46bf949ab3c38b05d9b58c04294f0e31d71 - groff (not sure what I tried to build that failed on that one)
https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/issues/65 - patchutils issue, needs at least https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/commit/dc88e964427c3d4a376a21dd517ab95c7b6c6ad4 that is in 0.4.3+ but we have 0.3.3,0.3.4 and 0.4.2.
And even after updating 0.4.2 -> 0.4.3 iirc it still fails with something else.
09:54:19
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)right... I'll take a look09:56:23
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you want to look at what I had before:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7b77cc83217d40c04fa65c00b215a72515d23076 - musl boostrap update (needed because of the basename declaration conflict in libiberty.h of gcc15 and strings.h in older musl) - the first reason pkgsMusl.stdenv
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/441527 - perl fix (should be on staging already)
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7fa91c674ef4bfb4ba26a3ef41a13f6c036c1631 - gnumake
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/41cf7647bb04699fc9d7067f0e7b3ed6d99e8804 - which
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9c90d46bf949ab3c38b05d9b58c04294f0e31d71 - groff (not sure what I tried to build that failed on that one)
https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/issues/65 - patchutils issue, needs at least https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/commit/dc88e964427c3d4a376a21dd517ab95c7b6c6ad4 that is in 0.4.3+ but we have 0.3.3,0.3.4 and 0.4.2.
And even after updating 0.4.2 -> 0.4.3 iirc it still fails with something else.
10:00:31
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you want to look at what I had before:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7b77cc83217d40c04fa65c00b215a72515d23076 - musl boostrap update (needed because of the basename declaration conflict in libiberty.h of gcc15 and strings.h in older musl) - the first reason pkgsMusl.stdenv fails to build
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/441527 - perl fix (should be on staging already)
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7fa91c674ef4bfb4ba26a3ef41a13f6c036c1631 - gnumake
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/41cf7647bb04699fc9d7067f0e7b3ed6d99e8804 - which
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9c90d46bf949ab3c38b05d9b58c04294f0e31d71 - groff (not sure what I tried to build that failed on that one)
https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/issues/65 - patchutils issue, needs at least https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/commit/dc88e964427c3d4a376a21dd517ab95c7b6c6ad4 that is in 0.4.3+ but we have 0.3.3,0.3.4 and 0.4.2.
And even after updating 0.4.2 -> 0.4.3 iirc it still fails with something else.
10:00:51
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you want to look at what I had before:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7b77cc83217d40c04fa65c00b215a72515d23076 - musl boostrap update (needed because of the basename declaration conflict in libiberty.h of gcc15 and string.h in older musl) - the first reason pkgsMusl.stdenv fails to build
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/441527 - perl fix (should be on staging already)
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7fa91c674ef4bfb4ba26a3ef41a13f6c036c1631 - gnumake
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/41cf7647bb04699fc9d7067f0e7b3ed6d99e8804 - which
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9c90d46bf949ab3c38b05d9b58c04294f0e31d71 - groff (not sure what I tried to build that failed on that one)
https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/issues/65 - patchutils issue, needs at least https://github.com/twaugh/patchutils/commit/dc88e964427c3d4a376a21dd517ab95c7b6c6ad4 that is in 0.4.3+ but we have 0.3.3,0.3.4 and 0.4.2.
And even after updating 0.4.2 -> 0.4.3 iirc it still fails with something else.
10:04:53
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)oh no basename10:06:10
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/414299#discussion_r2573260397 i had fun with basename gfcc 15 already10:06:34
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all) * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/414299#discussion_r2573260397 i had fun with basename gcc 15 already 10:06:41
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)also uh, with the bootstrap tools thingy, they fail to download, how do i go about that?10:07:29
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you mean from commit I linked, then I do not think it will work for you.
you can run ./maintainers/scripts/bootstrap-files/refresh-tarballs.bash --targets=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl and it will add some updated bootstrap locally.
And if you gc it, it will stop working
10:09:41
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you mean from commit I linked, then I do not think it will work for you.
You can run ./maintainers/scripts/bootstrap-files/refresh-tarballs.bash --targets=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl and it will add some updated bootstrap locally.
And if you gc it, it will stop working
10:10:00
@ghpzin:envs.netghpzin If you mean from commit I linked, then I do not think it will work for you.
You can run ./maintainers/scripts/bootstrap-files/refresh-tarballs.bash --targets=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl and it will add some updated bootstrap locally.
And if you gc it, it will stop working and then you rerun it again.
10:12:23
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)ah got it10:12:35

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