| 6 Jan 2026 |
 dramforever | very confused | 19:40:33 |
| dramforever | * they'll be very confused | 19:40:44 |
| dramforever | shell just sits there doing nothing | 19:40:46 |
| dramforever | but i was thinking in that case we could also slip this into staging-nixos and land it on master, while the -next -> master is going on | 19:42:00 |
| dramforever | the main problem is that qemu upstream seems to be just sleeping on this | 19:43:27 |
 emily | has no other distro updated glibc? | 20:04:23 |
 ma27 | gentoo has (there are bugreports on that matter on their end), fedora has (already as part of f43) | 20:08:09 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Ubuntu 25.10 also has 2.42, at a glance. | 20:10:10 |
| ma27 | anyways, left a comment in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/471270 because I'm not sure if just shipping the patches would be OK here. | 20:31:10 |
 fabianhjr | FYI seems like those have already been reviewed by at least one person and sent via de indicated channel.
Left a comment pointing to the upstream processes for inclusion/merging. | 20:37:38 |
| emily | so if it's just termios… are non-interactive shells not affected? | 21:35:35 |
| emily | i.e. actually Nix binfmt builders should be fine and it's just QEMU user emulation of interactive terminal programs? | 21:35:43 |
| emily | that seems niche enough that it's probably not a blocker IMO | 21:35:49 |
| emily | OTOH Gentoo is patching I guess? | 21:37:59 |
| 7 Jan 2026 |
| dramforever | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
so if it's just termios… are non-interactive shells not affected? non-interactive programs are not affected. the top level nix build run in a pty and i hope those are unaffected? | 04:25:05 |
| dramforever | and running cross-arch containers feels like it's, quite common among qemu-user users | 04:25:55 |
| emily | sounds like the projected impact shouldn't be world-ending even if we wait for upstream and they're a bit slow at least? | 05:11:56 |
| emily | I've used qemu-user a nontrivial number of times in my life but I think almost never to run interactive terminal programs | 05:12:31 |
| dramforever | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
sounds like the projected impact shouldn't be world-ending even if we wait for upstream and they're a bit slow at least? it shouldn't be hard to have users manually overlay qemu with the patches either | 08:23:52 |
| 8 Jan 2026 |
| fabianhjr | I am hopeful that it will be upstreamed within 2 weeks now that several distros have picked it up and the patches have been sent on the correct channel.
Only blocker could be authorship/license due to the patches being submitted by someone who isn't the author | 00:32:50 |
| fabianhjr | Unsure about what happened but seems like there were about >50k rebuilds on nixpkgs:unstable from the previous eval to the current eval | 04:52:39 |
| fabianhjr | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/unstable | 04:52:42 |
| fabianhjr | 
Download image.png | 04:53:01 |
| fabianhjr | * Unsure about what happened but seems like there were about ~50k rebuilds on nixpkgs:unstable from the previous eval to the current eval | 04:53:31 |
 whispers (it/fae) | maybe related: some builds i ran on master were trying to build cargo for aarch64-linux, which absolutely should not have needed a rebuild without staging cycle | 04:53:40 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * maybe related: some builds i ran on master a few hours ago were trying to build cargo for aarch64-linux, which absolutely should not have needed a rebuild without staging cycle | 04:54:37 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * maybe related: some builds i ran on master a few hours ago were trying to build cargo for aarch64-linux, which absolutely should not have needed a rebuild without a staging cycle. so something deep in the dependency tree changed somehow | 04:55:36 |
| whispers (it/fae) | looking at hydra, it seems like cargo (probably some dependent?) had a rebuild on every platform besides x86_64-linux | 05:05:00 |
| whispers (it/fae) | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/472376 probably this PR | 05:06:15 |
| fabianhjr | weird that x86_64-linux would be 0 rebuilds and ofborg/eval also indicates 0 rebuilds 😱 | 05:07:35 |
