| 3 Jul 2026 |
 emily | I don't think it's worth rerolling though | 13:40:37 |
| emily | it just sucks to triage | 13:40:41 |
 Vladimír Čunát | They hide 15k builds. No idea how many individual breakages lurk underneath. | 15:01:24 |
| emily | right | 15:01:37 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Hydra doesn't anything to do for darwin currently. | 15:03:05 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I could start a staging-next-26.05, though. There's still more darwin in there. | 15:03:37 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * I could start a parallel staging-next-26.05, though. There's still more darwin in there. | 15:03:42 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (and much less human work surely) | 15:03:57 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Or we could roll the darwin rebuild (or possibly whole staging). | 15:04:34 |
| emily | I can get fixes up for the big blockers | 15:05:07 |
| emily | in like 30-60 minutes | 15:05:20 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Or that. | 15:05:24 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Sounds optimal. | 15:05:27 |
| emily | (I wonder if we can conceivably start running staging cycles simultaneously though…) | 15:05:52 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I don't see a real issue. | 15:06:10 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Though I don't have much experience with the new queue-runner. | 15:06:29 |
| emily | like as standard – that would be nice in some ways wrt benefiting from the increased efficiency while not compressing the timeline for human reaction for regressions as much | 15:06:34 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Details around priorities, bumping, etc. | 15:06:39 |
| emily | and also avoid the "do we want unstable or stable users to get this CVSS 10 fix first" thing | 15:06:48 |
| emily | (admittedly by compromising by slowing both of them down vs. if we just picked one) | 15:07:00 |
 hexa | and also … we lack people looking at staging-next | 15:07:49 |
| Vladimír Čunát | matplotlib by itself hides over 13k jobs right now. | 15:07:31 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * matplotlib by itself blocks over 13k jobs right now. | 15:07:41 |
| emily | yeah. and most of those will be Python so not even involve linking at all | 15:07:49 |
| hexa | do we want simultatenous lack of people looking at staging-next-26.05? :D | 15:07:58 |
| emily | so I'd expect they should mostly succeed | 15:07:58 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * matplotlib by itself blocks over 13k jobs right now. (though they would be cheaper on average probably) | 15:08:00 |
| emily | stable -next at least much more rarely regresses, right? | 15:08:17 |
| emily | and when it does the regressions are usually ones that also happen on -next | 15:08:22 |
| hexa | certainly much less, but the first staging-next-26.05 was annoying | 15:08:44 |
