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13 Mar 2026
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneBecause it's more exciting that way, I guess.23:39:36
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneI know it's tempting to speculate, but actually knowing is more fun.23:40:00
@waltmck:matrix.orgwaltmckI'm a PhD student working on machine learning. Just 6 months ago I presented a spotlight oral paper at ICML. You don't know anything about me23:40:24
@waltmck:matrix.orgwaltmckI'm not sure where this ad hominem is coming from, I don't think I've been disrespectful to you23:41:00
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneNot only does knowing, prevent you from seeming like Sam Altman talking about how we should build dyson spheres, (a literal physics in-joke), it also means you can focus on what you can actually use them for. Like alt text captioning and translation.23:41:11
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneThey are not comparable to human brains. Just don't.23:41:27
@waltmck:matrix.orgwaltmckGot it, great argument23:42:06
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneML can produce machines that do know how to play chess.23:42:57
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneLLMs aren't one of them.23:43:01
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneThat's because LLMs don't learn rules. They learn patterns.23:43:21
@waltmck:matrix.orgwaltmckYou don't know what you're talking about, but I don't really see the point of continuing this discussion here23:44:03
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneFantasizing about how this can be eliminated with "a little bit more data bro" is just making me sick. People keep saying it.23:44:06
@waltmck:matrix.orgwaltmckYou can DM me if you want to talk about this further23:44:12
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneIf it's so good, go and build it and demonstrate how it no longer causes problems, hallucinates or it wastes time.23:45:18
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneI will believe it when I see it.23:45:24
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneMost people have had enough of these lies and over exaggerations of capabilities, and fantasies of comparison to human brains, I am sure.23:45:48
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneSnake oil is not well respected. You will struggle to garner respect for selling, promoting snake oil.23:47:26
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneSorry about the temperature there, comparing it to a brain is just setting off my BS detector super hard.23:50:50
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneIt is not really the idea that there are comparable elements. It's the fact you said it so casually, as if it is self evident. Like how Sam Altman says we should obviously build a dyson sphere and everyone laughs, but he's actually serious.23:52:32
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * 23:53:02
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * 23:54:49
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneI think we need an AI debate channel, this is leaking into everything.23:57:07
14 Mar 2026
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsyou're in the right here.00:00:07
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone

You know what you could do to make up for the AI slop? @waltmck:matrix.org

https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/openai/95ec6a88-fbd8-4e9c-9924-53d6c2afd51a
https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/openai/09253a0e-a2b8-49d1-80bb-6955ba3b08a3

00:00:25
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneGet one of those roles and then pipe the hype money into a project you love00:00:37
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * 00:00:44
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * 00:00:57
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsif anyone can get a hype role at openai it's certainly not someone who knows what they're doing, so right on00:01:40
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone It is a contentious issue, and people are beginning to pick sides. 00:06:21
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbcause people keep fucking bringing it up, making PRs with and then expect a pat on the back for burning the planet and stealing everyones work, fuck no00:10:43

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