| 29 Oct 2024 |
 atemu12 | I believe that | 01:10:03 |
 oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | But yeah at least in the past Qualcomm was very bad at mainlining their stuff to kernel | 01:10:16 |
| oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | They basically just forked the kernel at some point and hacked it to work with their SoC | 01:10:53 |
| atemu12 | I think that's gotten better | 01:11:01 |
| atemu12 | LOS just pulls regular upstream 4.19 into the FP4 kernel repo | 01:11:41 |
| atemu12 | Straight from Greg | 01:12:00 |
| atemu12 | So it can't have be diverged that much anymore | 01:12:25 |
| atemu12 | I think Google's been applying some pressure in this regard the past couple of years | 01:12:50 |
| oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | Past few years I worked with the NVIDIA Jetson Orin (Tegra) stuff and that was also somewhat painful | 01:13:31 |
| oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | NVIDIA does really low quality software releases | 01:14:27 |
| atemu12 | Yeah Nvidia is something I don't wanna deal with in my personal systems either and that's just for the GPU driver | 01:14:33 |
 Tristan Ross | Every ARM machine is cursed in some way | 01:14:36 |
| atemu12 | The least cursed might be Apple surprisingly | 01:14:59 |
 samueldr | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
Every ARM machine is cursed in some way (the ISA doesn't matter... all machins are cursed in many ways) | 01:15:12 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
The least cursed might be Apple surprisingly Because Asahi? | 01:15:17 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @samueldr:matrix.org
(the ISA doesn't matter... all machins are cursed in many ways) Ik, I'm more of meaning vendor wise lol | 01:15:31 |
| oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | Well, Asahi seems like a lot of work :) | 01:15:41 |
| samueldr | In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
Is anyone actually doing that? I believe most OEMs are, at least a downstream from the BSP | 01:15:45 |
| samueldr | * I believe most big OEMs are, at least a downstream from the BSP | 01:15:52 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @oak:universumi.fi
Well, Asahi seems like a lot of work :) But it's made good progress and it's very stable | 01:15:59 |
| atemu12 | Are you running it bare-metal? | 01:16:22 |
| Tristan Ross | Yes | 01:16:30 |
| atemu12 | Neat | 01:16:33 |
| Tristan Ross | Asahi NixOS | 01:16:37 |
| Tristan Ross | 
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| oak 🏳️🌈♥️ | I was really surprised how they got the GPU working so well | 01:17:26 |
