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18 Apr 2026
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb * 19:32:46
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbI would be mad, but she aint wrong....19:33:20
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12I thought so too but updated that recently when someone working on Pixel 6 mainlining showed me what's been happening with the Fairphone 5/6; they have taken its crown!20:50:10
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12What I find admirable is that it's someone employed by fairphone doing the work20:51:41
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12An OEM employing someone to actually mainline an otherwise production-ready phone you can just go and buy on the regular open market 🀯20:52:51
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbi meant from the op series :)21:16:32
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbidk about other21:16:35
19 Apr 2026
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@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️I ordered Jolla's latest Sailfish phone just now, let's see what my life becomes next12:17:32
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️Last remnants of Finnish Quality Products(TM), a group of people that consists mostly of ex-Nokia employees12:18:08
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️but let's see what has happened within this project, I last time upgraded my OnePlus 8 Pro's LineageOS one year ago, so now is a good time to upgrade once more and soon the old phone will get its earned retirement after 6 years of active use12:21:39
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️Last time I checked here you were eagerly planning to remove and modify features that were on active use by me, such as OTA updates and signing with own keys, so let's see how the upgrade path goes. Luckily I have Claude Opus Max in use12:23:33
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️Maybe Claude could get the tri-chrome builds working again from source, it was so tedious I gave up with that myself back year ago12:25:11
@jaen:matrix.orgjaen

Let me preempt the drama - you will probably have to maintain your own fork if you do that, though.

Even if you discount all the various LLM opinions (which you may yet get to hear), there is no clear precedent showing that you actually have copyright over things written with an LLM (and at least EU has an official document with legal interpretation to contrary), so the safest best for an OSS project is just not to accept any contributions that are known to have been made with an LLM. You don't want to wake up one day to your license being null and void.

15:36:23
@cyclopentane:aidoskyneen.eupentane brief reminder, again, that discussions about LLMs are off-topic here 15:37:21
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️Found plenty of problems already, which I have to fix on my local fork at least first to be able to get forward. The updater seems to be broken, the updater url now needs to be patched into different place because LineageOS appears to have moved it20:52:48
@cyclopentane:aidoskyneen.eupentane seriously guys, go take that shit to #offtopic:nixos.org or something. this is a channel about robotnix 15:39:04
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️I don't want to start "LLM-drama" here either, IMO Linus Torvalds has sensible view towards them20:53:21
@oak:universumi.fioak πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβ™₯️And if I speak philosophically, if I do write code together with Claude I interpret I have the Copyright. I'd compare it to playing an instrument, or using a tool. Like if I record a piece of music playing using some instrument, the Copyright is on me for the recording20:57:06
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12

That's not how western copyright (currently) works.

The composer owns the rights to the piece. If you were to perform and record it, they'd actually own the full copyright to that recording.

If you did something so transformative in your performance that your part could be considered an artistic work of its own, you'd have the copyright for that part only. You would still require explicit permission from the composer to do anything with your recording. (Though they wouldn't automatically own your whole performance anymore.)

If you transformed it so far as to become a distinct work that can stand independently, only then would you become the copyright holder of that work.

Reviewing what some fascist's slop machine remixed from pirated code is not transformative in any way. It doesn't even qualify for partial copyright and good luck finding all the copyright holders to acquire licenses from even in that case.

If this sounds insane to you, go read up on copyright; it's part of the game – whether you want it or not.

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