| 19 Aug 2021 |
 Xe (xe/they) | i think i may take the full dive plunge into robotnix later today with a pixel 5. do you have any advice for someone that is switching from an iPhone? | 16:24:14 |
 samueldr | Xe (xe/they): luckily, robotnix shouldn't really be felt on the system once running | 16:27:02 |
| samueldr | if you meant advice about day to day usage of the OS | 16:27:17 |
| samueldr | oh, never finished the though: so any "android for iOS users" advice should still apply | 16:28:32 |
| samueldr | depending on whether or not you added google play may change these advices | 16:28:48 |
| Xe (xe/they) | i more mean in things like installing google play into the rom so i can get to things like tasker, is that hard to do? | 16:29:12 |
| Xe (xe/they) | or do i just sideload it | 16:29:18 |
| Xe (xe/they) | the dream imo would be having the play store in the rom directly | 16:30:25 |
| samueldr | I'm not 100% sure here, I have lots of experience with ROMs, but mainly with lineageos-flavoured ones | 16:31:03 |
 ajs124 | https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix/issues/47
there's an issue for that but maybe the person that said they'd work on it haven't really done that so far | 16:31:12 |
| ajs124 | just a theory though | 16:31:18 |
| ajs124 changed their display name from Andreas Schrägle to ajs124. | 16:31:21 |
| samueldr | AFAIUI with LineageOS (built with robotnix) you would do exactly the same as you would with LineageOS | 16:31:29 |
| Xe (xe/they) | should i base my thing on grapheneos or lineageos? | 16:31:53 |
| samueldr | https://wiki.lineageos.org/gapps.html | 16:31:53 |
| samueldr | depends on what you want | 16:32:10 |
| samueldr | it's a bit like comparing Ubuntu and some other "hardened" linux distro | 16:32:39 |
| Xe (xe/they) | with robotnix and lineageos will i be able to custom sign the rom? | 16:33:14 |
| ajs124 | yes | 16:33:39 |
| samueldr | LineageOS is configured in a way that some would describe as "insecure", some would describe as "tinkerable" | 16:34:19 |
| samueldr | I assume GrapheneOS makes use of dm-verity and modifying the build after the fact is a no-no | 16:34:44 |
| ajs124 | you can also just build aosp for pixel phones | 16:34:49 |
| samueldr | AOSP may or may not do some of the security stuff the pixel ROMs do | 16:35:08 |
 hmenke | Xe (xe/they): What do you expect from Google Play Services? If you only use Google Cloud Messaging for push notification like I do, then microG is a perfectly fine solution. | 16:56:43 |
| hmenke | I haven't had a chance to check the new sandboxed Google Play Services that GrapheneOS offers. | 16:57:29 |
| hmenke | There is also no proper way of distribution yet. The docs basically say "download these APKs and sideload them with a split-APK installer of your choice". | 16:58:20 |
| hmenke | https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-play-services | 16:59:02 |
| Xe (xe/they) | is there a way to add an arbitrary set of files to the android system image while it's being built such as from a zip file a-la how gapps is distributed? | 17:47:59 |
| samueldr | warning: flashable zips are not just files being plonked down into the FS | 17:56:52 |
| samueldr | they contain a META-INF/com/google/android/update-binary and possibly a META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script file, both of which will execute on the target system | 17:58:05 |
