| 27 Jan 2025 |
 Atemu | The lynchpin is the bootloader/firmware | 21:23:15 |
| Atemu | As long as you have fastboot and flashing is unlocked, the phone is easily recoverable | 21:23:31 |
| Atemu | If one of those conditions aren't met anymore, ...good luck | 21:23:52 |
 samueldr | (there are some phones where the fastboot protocol in bootloader will not accept to flash images when locked) | 21:24:00 |
| samueldr | * (there are some phones where the fastboot protocol in bootloader will not accept to flash images when locked with custom signatures verification) | 21:24:16 |
| Atemu | Ugh | 21:24:22 |
| samueldr | good luck figuring out which :( | 21:24:31 |
| Atemu | :( | 21:24:40 |
| samueldr | and fun fact: you need a working system to turn the toggle on to allow unlocking | 21:24:51 |
| Atemu | Does it reset if you re-lock? | 21:25:04 |
| Atemu | (Reset to off.) | 21:25:18 |
| samueldr | what would be "off"? | 21:26:39 |
| Atemu | Unlocking off | 21:26:49 |
| samueldr | the custom keys stay, so signed images can be booted | 21:27:01 |
| Atemu | Yes but does the setting whether to allow unlocking stay when you lock the bootloader? | 21:27:40 |
| samueldr | (that is a platform/device-specific implementation detail) on standard android phone platforms, there's the toggle to allow unlocking, which is only controlled in the OS, and then there's the unlock state | 21:28:36 |
| Atemu | Yup | 21:28:51 |
| samueldr | so no, re-locking the bootloader does not immediately disallows unlocking it... probably | 21:28:55 |
| samueldr | (again, platform/device-specific implementations, so YMMV) | 21:29:08 |
| 28 Jan 2025 |
 magic_rb | Huh, im now thinking. Im stuck like 2 versions of LOS behind latest on my phone because i postponed upgrades for half a year during a particularly rough period and i dont think upgrading right to latest will go too well. I could theoretically use robotnix to compile intermediates and upgrade like thay | 19:39:07 |
| magic_rb | (Assuming no lineageos build archive exists) | 19:39:19 |
| Atemu | We still have multiple versions | 19:40:32 |
| Atemu | I updated from 20 to 22.1 this weekend too | 19:40:49 |
| magic_rb | Direct? | 19:41:10 |
| Atemu | Make sure you boot once with every intermepiate major version | 19:41:22 |
| Atemu | * | 19:41:32 |
| magic_rb | Im on android 13 whatever that is in lineageos terminology | 19:41:37 |
| Atemu | 21 | 19:41:42 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
Make sure you boot once with every intermediate major version (With backups obviously) | 19:41:44 |
| Atemu | No 20 | 19:41:48 |
