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15 Jun 2021
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Not sure about master07:23:56
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)If you enable k3s or kubernetes service you might also get cgroupv107:24:15
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensok, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye out, I hadn't really considered that the host config would matter too much.07:24:23
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI'm sorta hoping to try Nomad, but we'll see...07:24:48
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)That took me way to long to figure out.07:24:51
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Nomad will have the same issue if it uses containerd I think07:25:05
* @colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens nods07:25:25
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I am sure they will sort this out this year, but right now it is a known issue.07:25:39
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)colemickens: a different issue is that qemu does not like read-only mounts. It is ok with not beeing able to right the image so.07:27:28
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)That's why I copy initrds + rootfs to a location outside the nix store.07:27:46
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI think I saw that preexecstat when skimming... but that's odd, again I'm surprised I hadn't noticed that when I was testing?07:28:52
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens * I think I saw that preexecstart when skimming... but that's odd, again I'm surprised I hadn't noticed that when I was testing? I definitely had the guest/agent booting.07:29:09
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensanyway, more good tips.07:29:17
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)The error message comes from qemu itself. I use virtio-fs07:29:56
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I have not debugged this to the hypervisor itself. I only had a weekend to get it working.07:30:19
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensok07:30:59
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensthanks for the input; one last one and then I have to run - I saw you forked vhive, any quick thoughts to share on it coming from the kata perspective? or just something you're keeping an eye on07:31:35
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens * thanks for the input; one last one and then I have to run - I saw you forked vhive, any quick thoughts to share on it coming from the kata perspective? or just something you're keeping an eye on?07:31:36
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)It is based on a research project. It certainly shows what needs to be optimized to make lambda functions more scalable. But there is no big coorp like Intel working behind it. Just 4 PhD students working on their next publications. We use it in our research project to make a usecase for vmsh.07:33:45
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Also quality and documentation is certainly above what you would see from a average research project.07:34:23
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)They got CI and end-to-end documentation.07:34:35
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I think the vhive people also hangout in some firecracker slack or so.07:35:13
16 Jun 2021
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18 Jun 2021
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@rager:synapse.lickmy.apprageroh shoot... so it's a thing - cgroups v2 unified format is mucking up all us container users?17:05:49
@rager:synapse.lickmy.appragerI'm running into lots of "failed to run Kubelet: mountpoint for cpu not found" when I run the nixos kubernetes packages in a nixos container17:07:40
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenswell that probably has to do with trying to run a container manager inside a container17:43:29
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenssomehow I didn't realize a patch was needed for this: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Boot-Non-BD-File-Systems&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%2917:43:50
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenswhich would be useful in my virtiofs + kata for Nix scenario17:44:03

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