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15 Jun 2021
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI want to at least spend a bit more time trying to build the images, not sure I can commit to upstreaming unless I find myself using it beyond tinkering.07:19:38
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)How much does this agent depends on is userspace?07:20:24
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Is is more or less self-sufficient?07:20:36
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensIt's meant to be able to run as pid 1 itself, so I think very little.07:20:53
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Because right now I would just stick to the pre-build images until I got a better understanding.07:20:56
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens well, I should be more clear, it can be run as pid 1, and will behave accordingly. 07:21:26
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensIIRC I even got the agent starting up, it was just failing to do some cgroups setup at pod-start-time07:21:49
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenssomeone in the Kata Slack gave a suggestion and wants to help me, I just need to take a day07:22:04
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)colemickens: do you do cgroupv2 or v1?07:22:13
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)kata has problems with cgroupv2 on the host07:22:24
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I had to disable it07:22:28
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens on the host? 07:22:35
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenshm07:22:38
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)The host running the vm07:22:46
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI am pretty sure I'm on cgroupsv2 yes, I hadn't quite noticed that07:22:57
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensits been a couple weeks though...07:23:18
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)You will see it breaks container that run for longer.07:23:20
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)The hello-world container works07:23:33
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)but not a busybox one that is interactive07:23:40
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)At least in the released version of kata-containers07:23:52
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Not sure about master07:23:56
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)If you enable k3s or kubernetes service you might also get cgroupv107:24:15
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensok, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye out, I hadn't really considered that the host config would matter too much.07:24:23
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI'm sorta hoping to try Nomad, but we'll see...07:24:48
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)That took me way to long to figure out.07:24:51
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Nomad will have the same issue if it uses containerd I think07:25:05
* @colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens nods07:25:25
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I am sure they will sort this out this year, but right now it is a known issue.07:25:39
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)colemickens: a different issue is that qemu does not like read-only mounts. It is ok with not beeing able to right the image so.07:27:28
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)That's why I copy initrds + rootfs to a location outside the nix store.07:27:46

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