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15 Jun 2021
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens * I think I saw that preexecstart when skimming... but that's odd, again I'm surprised I hadn't noticed that when I was testing? I definitely had the guest/agent booting.07:29:09
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensanyway, more good tips.07:29:17
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)The error message comes from qemu itself. I use virtio-fs07:29:56
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I have not debugged this to the hypervisor itself. I only had a weekend to get it working.07:30:19
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensok07:30:59
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensthanks for the input; one last one and then I have to run - I saw you forked vhive, any quick thoughts to share on it coming from the kata perspective? or just something you're keeping an eye on07:31:35
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens * thanks for the input; one last one and then I have to run - I saw you forked vhive, any quick thoughts to share on it coming from the kata perspective? or just something you're keeping an eye on?07:31:36
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)It is based on a research project. It certainly shows what needs to be optimized to make lambda functions more scalable. But there is no big coorp like Intel working behind it. Just 4 PhD students working on their next publications. We use it in our research project to make a usecase for vmsh.07:33:45
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Also quality and documentation is certainly above what you would see from a average research project.07:34:23
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)They got CI and end-to-end documentation.07:34:35
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I think the vhive people also hangout in some firecracker slack or so.07:35:13
16 Jun 2021
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18 Jun 2021
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@rager:synapse.lickmy.apprageroh shoot... so it's a thing - cgroups v2 unified format is mucking up all us container users?17:05:49
@rager:synapse.lickmy.appragerI'm running into lots of "failed to run Kubelet: mountpoint for cpu not found" when I run the nixos kubernetes packages in a nixos container17:07:40
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenswell that probably has to do with trying to run a container manager inside a container17:43:29
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenssomehow I didn't realize a patch was needed for this: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Boot-Non-BD-File-Systems&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%2917:43:50
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickenswhich would be useful in my virtiofs + kata for Nix scenario17:44:03
@andi:kack.itandi-Does virtiofsd still require a daemon running as root?17:53:31
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensyes. " The program drops privileges where possible during startup although it must be able to create and access files with any uid/gid:"18:06:47
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @andi:kack.it
Does virtiofsd still require a daemon running as root?
If you want to support multiple uids this would be needed. But in theory usernamespaces could help with that.
18:31:50
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I can check with my Kata containers18:32:18
@andi:kack.itandi-I wanted to use it for the NixOS VM test a year ago when it was merged into the kernel but that daemon requirement was a show stopper :/18:32:50
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @rager:synapse.lickmy.app
oh shoot... so it's a thing - cgroups v2 unified format is mucking up all us container users?
K8s has an option to fix that
18:33:15
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @andi:kack.it
I wanted to use it for the NixOS VM test a year ago when it was merged into the kernel but that daemon requirement was a show stopper :/
It should not be impossible support. Upstream probably would accept PRs for that. I put this on my to-do list. I know fuse quite a bit
18:34:34
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI have a Kubernetes module in my personal repo that uses cri-o and puts Kubelet in systemd Cgroup mode. It works fine with cgroups v218:35:43
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianBut yeh by default Kubernetes still defaults to cgroupfs and docker and that will definitely not work18:35:59
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThe docker driver is practically deprecated so idk if it will ever support it. We should perhaps move the default CRI driver in nixos to cri-o18:36:39
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI don't have enough time to turn this into a proper PR atm18:37:14

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