| 15 Jun 2024 |
 steveej | i thought i could save time by finding a way to orchestrate containers that can reuse the nixos modules collection. i don't like how containers have to redefine the service semantics | 20:52:05 |
 adamcstephens | full OS containers can definitely run NixOS modules :) | 20:53:14 |
| adamcstephens | using NixOS modules elsewhere is a great idea, but it's the holy grail in some ways | 20:53:55 |
| steveej | i agree. so much work is put into these service definitions. it'd be a shame to have to ditch that for the sake of dynamic/runtime orchestration | 20:55:13 |
| 25 Jun 2024 |
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| 2 Jul 2024 |
| adamcstephens | ofborg seems unable to run even the container tests any longer | 12:08:57 |
| adamcstephens | hmm, i just got a timeout running the lxc 6.0.1 tests | 12:17:17 |
| adamcstephens | * hmm, i just got a timeout locally running the lxc 6.0.1 tests | 12:17:23 |
 hexa | is that also something nobody uses? 🤔 | 12:17:44 |
| adamcstephens | lxc? | 12:18:12 |
| adamcstephens | it's the container runtime for incus and lxd :) | 12:18:25 |
| adamcstephens | also apparently people use it by itself, which i don't understand | 12:18:43 |
| hexa | I know what it is 😄 Are you using it? | 12:20:04 |
| adamcstephens | not by itself, but i use incus containers | 12:20:37 |
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| 15 Jul 2024 |
| adamcstephens | sigh. they add new binary dependencies, change environment variable names, and put none of this in the release notes | 12:45:06 |
| hexa | well, then speak up 🙂 | 12:47:11 |
| adamcstephens | yeah i already asked about the binary deps. i think i need to convince him that packagers need release notes too :) | 12:48:09 |
| hexa | indeed | 12:49:04 |
| adamcstephens | also, you know, breaking changes | 12:59:23 |
| adamcstephens | renaming an environment variable that's critical for virtual machines to work | 12:59:50 |
| hexa | absolutely | 13:00:10 |
| adamcstephens | i sent him a message. also pointed out that he's causing himself more work this way since both the person who opened our PR and at least an Arch user opened support requrests | 13:01:15 |
| adamcstephens | * | 13:01:26 |
| adamcstephens | our test suite may take too long for ofborg, but it showed its worth here :) | 13:02:29 |
| hexa | yeaj, if you love something, put a test on it 😄 | 13:03:44 |
| adamcstephens | indeeed | 13:07:40 |
