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26 Feb 2024
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈TIL that it is unmaintained20:19:38
@patka_123:matrix.orgpatka joined the room.20:20:08
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈I do feel like there should probably be some sort of 'blessed' or at least canonical solution to "produce a binary cache for a given set of expressions" but I don't see a reason why that would need to be Hydra specifically20:20:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe alternative is also to do a call to form a new team to maintain Hydra20:23:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusor at least clearly identified people who would like to take up the maintenance20:23:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil John Ericson is doing some Hydra maintenance 20:24:37
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
The alternative is also to do a call to form a new team to maintain Hydra
With maintaining you mean like basically putting hydra on life support so it works good enough for the infra team?
20:24:45
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI wouldn't consider it unmaintained20:24:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius So shall we put maintainers=@JohnEricson in the repo? 20:25:52
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI don't exactly want to be stuck with it20:26:03
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.orgFrom the few times ajs rambled about hydra he said it has quite a few database schema problems, currently will be affected by y38k and a lot more. 20:26:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAs I imagine20:26:12
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI have had less time in general in 2024 for programming stuff20:26:42
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonmore IRL things20:26:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius I know that ma27 also does maintenance for his own needs 20:26:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAnd few others folks20:26:51
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut it seems like to me that Hydra is in a similar situation as the one for NixOps20:27:01
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.netwith the major difference that nixops has replacement projects, hydra doesn't really, at least for the hydra.nixos.org use case (smaller scale why would you bother)20:28:00
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.net(but it's not like hydra.nixos.org is anywhere close to a local optimum for the hydra.nixos.org use case either...)20:28:32
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.net * (but it's not like hydra is anywhere close to a local optimum for the hydra.nixos.org use case either...)20:28:44
@k900:0upti.meK900I think it should stay under the org, because it is part of the org infra20:29:00
@k900:0upti.meK900But the documentation should say that you don't actually want to use it probably20:29:26
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.netGSoC project: rewrite the whole hydra frontend in anything that isn't Perl?20:29:30
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.netI'd even take javascript at this point I think20:29:36
@delroth:delroth.net@delroth:delroth.net(please don't)20:29:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius It can, but I guess it can be rename to hydra-for-nixosorg and people can have nix-community/hydra if they want a community maintained Hydra 20:29:46
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I wouldn't consider it unmaintained
everyone I know only uses hydara because their is no real alternative and you have to use something. There is some people devloping smaller and larger scale alternatives but most of them are still in early development like https://github.com/typhon-ci and https://codeberg.org/gorgon/
20:30:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusGorgon does not aim to be Hydra CI replacement AFAIK20:30:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut Typhon aims to be small scale Hydra, yes20:30:35
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
GSoC project: rewrite the whole hydra frontend in anything that isn't Perl?
feel free to do a pr if you want to mentor it :D
20:30:43

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