| 3 May 2024 |
 infinisil | Like, step 1 and step 2 | 11:31:26 |
| infinisil | Step 1 is only relevant for the next 2 weeks, step 2 is primarily relevant after that (but people can start discussing stuff already, like we've seen on Discourse) | 11:32:29 |
 edef | i feel like it might be good to signpost the timeline from time to time, also | 11:32:54 |
| edef | transfer a little of yesterday's sense of urgency onwards | 11:33:40 |
| edef | but not so much that it makes people feel rushed to like, come to conclusions early | 11:34:15 |
| edef | basically whatever we can do to not go full bystander effect / waiting around | 11:35:15 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | infinisil: that really needs to be documented/explained somewhere (on the zulip) then, maybe in the announcements stream? as the vast majority of people involved will not have this background :) | 11:35:37 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | likewise, specific questions/issues to deliberate should be posed, as per what edef said | 11:36:03 |
| edef | not necessarily too specific, but the high level goals yeah | 11:36:26 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | ah, I see shlevy was faster with that | 11:36:29 |
| edef | and yeah, any background info is worth reiterating, in general i expect not everyone has read the proceedings closely and we still want their input | 11:37:00 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | right. we should assume that anyone joining the governance zulip will have basically no background on what happened so far | 11:37:46 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | going off the confusion I've seen in various places | 11:37:55 |
| infinisil | Oh i guess we should not chat here then :P | 11:41:32 |
| infinisil | I'll not be super online all the time today, but I count on y'all to do that knowledge transfer :D | 11:42:32 |
|  Federico Damián Schonborn changed their profile picture. | 11:58:02 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | reminder to mods to close governance discussion on the Discourse | 12:09:38 |
 @hexa:lossy.network | right | 12:13:02 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | any specific discussion you have in mind? | 12:13:09 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | we already did https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-giving-power-to-the-community/44552/133?u=hexa earlier today | 12:13:25 |
 danielle | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
reminder to mods to close governance discussion on the Discourse there's no way to close "categories" as a hole afaict | 12:13:30 |
| danielle | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
reminder to mods to close governance discussion on the Discourse * there's no way to close "categories" as a whole afaict | 12:13:33 |
| danielle | so it's probably a case of just close indiscriminately as they pop up | 12:13:53 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | even if you did, people would just post in another 🙂 | 12:13:53 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | In reply to @danielle:fairydust.space
so it's probably a case of just close indiscriminately as they pop up works for me, honestly, as long as it is done sufficiently consistently and while clearly communicating that the governance discussions are now to go on the zulip (so that people understand why it was closed) | 12:26:29 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | and I mean, if you tell people "new governance threads are not allowed" and they insist on making them anyway, that seems to steer pretty obviously into bannable behaviour | 12:27:38 |
| edef | slightly concerned that we might accidentally close off people's access to Zulip | 12:28:21 |
| edef | since the application process is at least in part on Discourse | 12:28:36 |
| edef | if the same person starts governance threads repeatedly, that is a different issue | 12:28:52 |
| danielle | that bit we're not gonna do anything with (Aside from maybe throw on a 1 post/day slow mode) | 12:29:01 |
