| 2 May 2024 |
 7c6f434c | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I trust most people to be reasonable enough to not argue for a governance process that sucks :) Please add «knowingly» | 21:58:42 |
 infinisil | * I trust most people to be reasonable enough to not knowingly argue for a governance process that sucks :) | 21:58:56 |
 danielle | I'm trying real hard to make sure we don't repeat past mistakes and learn from elsewhere | 21:59:16 |
| 7c6f434c | I don't trust anyone, myself included, moderation team included, all people ever on the board of the Foundation included, not to do this accidentally. | 21:59:24 |
| danielle | * I'm trying real hard to make sure we don't repeat past mistakes and that we actually learn from elsewhere | 21:59:28 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | 7c6f434c: arguably that is why we have the "stop if you are told stop" rule :) | 21:59:51 |
| * infinisil has maybe too much trust in people | 22:00:01 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | defaulting to taking feedback seriously helps a lot in preventing bad decisions, after all | 22:00:38 |
| 7c6f434c | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
7c6f434c: arguably that is why we have the "stop if you are told stop" rule :) This rule does not help making any decisions though, let alone reasonable ones | 22:00:49 |
| danielle | I generally speaking trust that people are generally motivated to want to do things constructively and find common ground when they care. | 22:01:17 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | 7c6f434c: it does, in the sense that it leaves room for peer validation of ideas; it helps mitigate the common pattern of responding defensively and not taking feedback to heart | 22:02:04 |
| danielle | That caring sometimes means they get heated, and when that happens it's better to have a process that accepts it with an "apologize and move on", over one that needs heavy moderation | 22:02:18 |
|  David Mell (zraexy) joined the room. | 22:02:18 |
