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Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/14331 Servers

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2 May 2024
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆbig green button at the top right20:35:25
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆit lets you create multiple threads and then commit them all at once, that is why20:35:41
@niko:conduit.rsnyanbinaryoki there :320:36:00
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle nyanbinary: i would strongly reccomend using the suggestion feature rather than just that comment (but to answer, yes, already would be included under other aspects of diversity) 20:36:13
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle * nyanbinary: i would strongly recommend using the suggestion feature rather than just that comment (but to answer, yes, already would be included under other aspects of diversity) 20:36:18
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ nyanbinary: yep now I see it 20:36:25
@niko:conduit.rsnyanbinary
In reply to @danielle:fairydust.space
nyanbinary: i would strongly recommend using the suggestion feature rather than just that comment (but to answer, yes, already would be included under other aspects of diversity)
Its a bit of a foreign concept to a lot of people so I feel like it would be safer to specifically call it out though.
20:36:56
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle(which is why i say to suggest the change so it can be applied πŸ˜…)20:37:28
@niko:conduit.rsnyanbinary
In reply to @danielle:fairydust.space
(which is why i say to suggest the change so it can be applied πŸ˜…)
Fair but I'm not exactly the best at wording things lol (idk where I would add it)
20:39:50
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle
In reply to @niko:conduit.rs
Fair but I'm not exactly the best at wording things lol (idk where I would add it)
add a bullet point that says - otherkin to the list?
20:40:11
@niko:conduit.rsnyanbinaryOki :320:41:23
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle(if you use the review suggestions button that is an easy +1)20:43:48
@danielle:fairydust.spacedaniellei'm trying to avoid becoming the person who does all the writing :joy20:44:00
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle * i'm trying to avoid becoming the person who does all the writing :joy:20:44:02
@squalus0:matrix.org@squalus0:matrix.orgWhy is the incumbent moderation team deciding all of these CoC rules instead of the community?20:46:12
@shlevy:matrix.orgshlevy You are free to comment or propose your own 20:46:42
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle(I also was not a moderator when I wrote those rules)20:46:57
@shlevy:matrix.orgshlevyThey haven’t been merged yet20:47:18
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ community members have also been involved in this process here; and the intent right now is specifically to set up a code of conduct that will result in a constructive governance environment - this new code of conduct is not for the broader community 20:47:42
@squalus0:matrix.org@squalus0:matrix.orgI could propose my own, but I'd want to get assent and input from the community members that meet the contribution criteria.20:47:53
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆit is a bootstrapping operation to then make governance discussion about community-broad code of conduct possible20:48:02
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comOn point: moderators should stay out of the conversation to avoid being seen as arbiters on opinions 20:48:33
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.com* One point: moderators should stay out of the conversation to avoid being seen as arbiters on opinions 20:48:46
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ(the code of conduct for the community is within scope for what the new governance structure(s) will decide over)20:48:57
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comThis has been an issue in the past 20:48:57
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ Jonas Chevalier: I do not think this is viable for a governance discussion specifically; moderators have some of the strongest insight in the (historical and current) dynamics within the community, and the policy changes affect them too 20:49:43
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle I've joined the team partially because of extensive governance experience to help keep things productive πŸ˜… 20:50:12
@leona:leona.is@leona:leona.is joined the room.20:50:13
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆthey are very much a stakeholder20:50:17
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielleif that means i should leave the moderation team mid onboarding to be able to continue to do governance setup that is... amusing but technically doable?20:50:42

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