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Zulip setup coordination

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Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/14331 Servers

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2 May 2024
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈and this is causing confusion19:29:22
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Jonas Chevalier: How about this: Let's just put the CoC and deescalation documents in the stream topics and sign up as many users as we can for now, while I contact chat support to ask for increasing the number of users per day 19:29:48
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefworst case: it's 60 people, i'm happy to send out emails by hand if need be19:29:53
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi'm fine with a little RSI if it gets things moving19:30:28
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
infinisil: the signup post on discourse has a rather serious error; it references the contributor covenant, rather than the CoC for the governance zulip
We don't have an accepted CoC yet: https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/pull/144
19:30:43
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefokay, in that case we should clarify that19:31:08
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefrather than linking to one that is controversial among a decently sized crowd19:31:26
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefwe wrote this one specifically with that in mind19:31:37
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
We don't have an accepted CoC yet: https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/pull/144
then it should not reference any at all, or reference the future CoC
19:31:48
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comOk. Who is the coordinator?19:31:49
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈right now it is simply wrong19:31:52
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Jonas Chevalier: How about this: Let's just put the CoC and deescalation documents in the stream topics and sign up as many users as we can for now, while I contact chat support to ask for increasing the number of users per day
okay, easy mode: we invite people to a read-only stream that just has an announcement message, with links to the other streams
19:32:25
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilOr both!19:32:55
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefjust want to have a bit of a turnstile19:33:10
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi think that would cover all of my concerns19:33:28
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefand i can throw this pile of code in the trash :)19:33:39
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHonestly this isn't that big of a problem, we tried to make it work nicely, but the board is right in that it would take too long. We've gotten this far with setting up Zulip, let's just start using it, with all of the non-ideal suggestion for pointing out the CoC19:33:46
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefyeah19:33:58
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefthis was just the do-it-in-Zulip suggestion19:34:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilYeah let's do a read-only stream, subscribed by default, with the CoC, plus the CoC in the topic of each stream19:34:31
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilPlus link to it in the GitHub/Discourse threads19:34:44
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefby the way, is the Zulip UI convenient enough for mass sending out of invites?19:35:50
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefidk who is doing validation19:35:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBut actually, the most blocking thing right now is https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/pull/14419:36:19
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefoh that has a lot of clicks19:36:23
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comIs it possible to make streams read-only by default, but invite people for read-write?19:36:30
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
by the way, is the Zulip UI convenient enough for mass sending out of invites?
Yes, it's super easy :)
19:36:37
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefack19:37:19
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
Is it possible to make streams read-only by default, but invite people for read-write?
Not sure why we'd want that? But I think it only works based on roles. E.g. giving only moderators write access
19:37:22
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comOtherwise we can do GitHub Auth to read-only. And then promote people manually to the discussion 19:37:39

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