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Zulip setup coordination

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Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/14334 Servers

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2 May 2024
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈
In reply to @danielle:fairydust.space
are we likely to have more than a hundred or so people involved?
I would say yes, even if just barely, judging by the signup rate so far
19:16:03
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielle
In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
we could also contact Zulip and see if we can get an exception
their code base doesn't have an exception
19:16:19
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19:16:27
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefalso, flagging this, given many are using disposable emails for the signup because we have to post them publicly (myself included)19:16:39
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
In reply to @danielle:fairydust.space
their code base doesn't have an exception
exceptions can be made, you have done enough ops to know what can be done when there is a true need :p
19:17:04
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielleoh wait it does actually seem to have a thing19:17:22
@danielle:fairydust.spacedanielleso they might be ok with it19:17:25
@arianvp:matrix.org@arianvp:matrix.org Can't we allowlist on GitHub  handle instead? For oauth logins? 19:17:31
@danielle:fairydust.spacedaniellein the silliest way possible: https://github.com/zulip/zulip/blob/0a66fada64d72cb3a2e949c233575d1385b681f1/zerver/actions/invites.py#L186-L18919:17:43
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
This is very much a side quest that costs us 1.5 day. In true engineering fashion, solve social problems with technology! :-D
we discovered a limitation of our platform after i poked around for <1h
19:17:43
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi think that's an okay gain19:17:48
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.com
In reply to @lovesegfault:matrix.org
Talking to Zulip seems like something the Foundation could help with?
Not on this timescale 😅
19:18:02
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
Can't we allowlist on GitHub  handle instead? For oauth logins?
we did announce the email approach, but i suppose we can change course
19:18:24
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefespecially given that the OAuth login flow does explicitly front the org description (though i don't know how this works if you're already logged into another Zulip)19:19:06
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilhttps://github.com/zulip/zulip/blob/0a66fada64d72cb3a2e949c233575d1385b681f1/zproject/default_settings.py#L44319:19:20
@danielle:fairydust.spacedaniellelol in 100 days we can do whatever19:19:48
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef that's DEFAULT so presumably configurable somewhere 19:19:54
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIS this not configurable? The file says default_settings 🤔19:20:00
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil * Is this not configurable? The file says default_settings 🤔 19:20:08
* @infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil is researching19:20:19
@k900:0upti.meK900It's configurable per deployment 19:20:24
@k900:0upti.meK900But I don't think it's configurable on the SaaS19:20:31
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil edef: Oh can you look at your zulip instance (since you're an admin there) 19:20:36
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilOh nice19:20:38
@edef1c:matrix.orgedeffunnily enough i didn't create anywhere near 100 invites19:20:38
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAh damn19:20:42
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefmore like 3-519:20:58
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefthe ones to @edef.eu all worked, so maybe it's scrutinising the email domain19:21:11
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comParty popper: we have Discourse that works. The goal is to have thoughtful conversations, not chat. All we have to do is disable signups for the duration , and apply the same CoC19:21:23
@zimbatm:numtide.com@zimbatm:numtide.comAnd have the mods aggressively split threads 19:21:56

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