| 7 May 2024 |
 @jamesmowery:matrix.org | infinisil: totally makes sense. I just ask... why isn't that in the original requirements? | 14:32:27 |
 infinisil | Your linked comment was verifiable but not usable by others. And your IRC help is usable by others but not verifiable | 14:32:35 |
 raitobezarius | From my part, let me add that we reviewed your history because we had nothing more to use to weigh on your case and we found: https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1clf7v8/separating_nix_drama_discussions_from/l2uws01/.
Given https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/blob/master/governance/zulip/coc.md, I am afraid that this won't work out. | 14:33:31 |
 7c6f434c | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/ seems to be still up, so IRC help in #nixos should be verifiable, no? | 14:33:32 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Okay. So then let's clear the board. Contributing my NixOS configuration and sharing it on GitHub and the fact that "You sent a link to your NixOS repository and I think it would have been enough proof to qualify you" | 14:34:45 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | So... I was qualifiable, but now I'm not? | 14:35:05 |
| infinisil | If a link to the chat logs was sent we could've considered it | 14:35:11 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Again, just to clear the slate. It was said that I would be accepted if I just submitted my github link, which I did in my second attempt, and it was ignored. So is this request system a "you only get one chance" type thing? | 14:36:04 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @jamesmowery:matrix.org
Again, just to clear the slate. It was said that I would be accepted if I just submitted my github link, which I did in my second attempt, and it was ignored. So is this request system a "you only get one chance" type thing? You were provided with additional rationale for why the judgement still stand. | 14:36:35 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | raitobezarius: Can you clarify why the judgment still stands? | 14:37:10 |
| infinisil | jamesmowery The main problem to me is that you're being very disrespectful by lashing out at this decision, I don't think that's okay | 14:37:22 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Wouldn't you lash out? | 14:37:37 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | If someone told you that you would have been accepted... but now it's no? | 14:37:45 |
| infinisil | I would not :) | 14:37:52 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | infinisil: Can you prove that? | 14:38:07 |
 @hexa:lossy.network | Look, you can shitpost to reddit all day, but you need to learn that there are consequences to your actions. | 14:38:25 |
| raitobezarius | If you asked for joining the Zulip, surely you have understood there's a CoC and you read it. There's:
- excessive edits which seems to point out at unnecessary aggressiveness
- Reddit history which points out at misunderstanding of what the CoC is about or refusal to abide by the CoC while asking to join the governance talk
- your behavior in this room
| 14:38:41 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | @hexa so that's what it is! I figured there some real context behind this. | 14:38:53 |
| raitobezarius | This is the reason for why I lean on maintaining the original judgement. | 14:38:58 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | It was my reddit history. | 14:38:59 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Okay, I'm satisfied with this. | 14:39:08 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Thank you NixOS team for taking the time to respond. I will consider this your official verdict. | 14:39:19 |
| raitobezarius | Whether you would have been able to get through by just posting your NixOS configuration is irrelevant at this point | 14:39:20 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | I appreciate all the things you do. | 14:39:23 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | You didn't clear the bar, and by the time your changes were made we already found that, so it was a rejection. | 14:39:25 |
| raitobezarius | Thank you for your understanding. | 14:39:39 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Again, I appreciate you all taking the time to explain. | 14:40:19 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org | Do you know what's really, terribly sad here? I have another account on GitHub and a different email with no connection to my public name and identity that also has NixOS configurations, and I could so easily submit that and, based on everything that was discussed above, I would get accepted. In fact, it's almost guaranteed that I would get accepted. But you know what, out of respect for the decision, I'm not going to do it. Despite the fact that I could so easily get in... I'm still honorable enough to respect that decision.
Maybe weigh that into your decision making and have some deep compassion the next time someone like me comes in here with passion and wanting to participate with something they've had a part of their lives for over 10 years. You might have hurt me, but please don't hurt the next person. | 14:49:34 |
| @jamesmowery:matrix.org left the room. | 14:49:58 |
| raitobezarius | hexa: They left. | 14:50:33 |
