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@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgWhat does this have to do with community contribution?14:29:58
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgCan we focus on community contribution, that's all I'm asking for.14:30:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusYou sent a link to your NixOS repository and I think it would have been enough proof to qualify you, but now that you behaved this way, I am leaning on the original judgement.14:30:24
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgThat's totally fine. If I'm rejected. I just want a clear explanation and want something I can clearly document.14:31:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Also, just to be clearer about the bar: Imo the contribution needs to be:
- Verifiable
- Be usable by others
14:31:46
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.org infinisil: totally makes sense. I just ask... why isn't that in the original requirements? 14:32:27
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Your linked comment was verifiable but not usable by others. And your IRC help is usable by others but not verifiable 14:32:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusFrom my part, let me add that we reviewed your history because we had nothing more to use to weigh on your case and we found: https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1clf7v8/separating_nix_drama_discussions_from/l2uws01/. Given https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/blob/master/governance/zulip/coc.md, I am afraid that this won't work out.14:33:31
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/ seems to be still up, so IRC help in #nixos should be verifiable, no? 14:33:32
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgOkay. So then let's clear the board. Contributing my NixOS configuration and sharing it on GitHub and the fact that "You sent a link to your NixOS repository and I think it would have been enough proof to qualify you"14:34:45
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgSo... I was qualifiable, but now I'm not?14:35:05
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil If a link to the chat logs was sent we could've considered it 14:35:11
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgAgain, just to clear the slate. It was said that I would be accepted if I just submitted my github link, which I did in my second attempt, and it was ignored. So is this request system a "you only get one chance" type thing?14:36:04
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @jamesmowery:matrix.org
Again, just to clear the slate. It was said that I would be accepted if I just submitted my github link, which I did in my second attempt, and it was ignored. So is this request system a "you only get one chance" type thing?
You were provided with additional rationale for why the judgement still stand.
14:36:35
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.org raitobezarius: Can you clarify why the judgment still stands? 14:37:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil jamesmowery The main problem to me is that you're being very disrespectful by lashing out at this decision, I don't think that's okay 14:37:22
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgWouldn't you lash out?14:37:37
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgIf someone told you that you would have been accepted... but now it's no?14:37:45
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil I would not :) 14:37:52
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.org infinisil: Can you prove that? 14:38:07
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkLook, you can shitpost to reddit all day, but you need to learn that there are consequences to your actions.14:38:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius

If you asked for joining the Zulip, surely you have understood there's a CoC and you read it. There's:

  • excessive edits which seems to point out at unnecessary aggressiveness
  • Reddit history which points out at misunderstanding of what the CoC is about or refusal to abide by the CoC while asking to join the governance talk
  • your behavior in this room
14:38:41
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.org@hexa so that's what it is! I figured there some real context behind this.14:38:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThis is the reason for why I lean on maintaining the original judgement.14:38:58
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgIt was my reddit history. 14:38:59
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgOkay, I'm satisfied with this.14:39:08
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgThank you NixOS team for taking the time to respond. I will consider this your official verdict.14:39:19
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWhether you would have been able to get through by just posting your NixOS configuration is irrelevant at this point14:39:20
@jamesmowery:matrix.org@jamesmowery:matrix.orgI appreciate all the things you do.14:39:23
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkYou didn't clear the bar, and by the time your changes were made we already found that, so it was a rejection.14:39:25

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