| 2 May 2024 |
 edef | i'm too ADHD and i'm subscribed to too many email things | 17:41:10 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | I am inclined to say that it is maybe worth the extra roundtrip | 17:41:15 |
| edef | so i literally just fish the relevant thing out of my email when necessary | 17:41:22 |
| edef | does the API let us send out invites? | 17:41:33 |
 infinisil | Honestly I don't think that's feasible to keep track of | 17:41:33 |
| edef | i could cook up a clickthrough | 17:41:59 |
| infinisil | In the "training in zulip" I just added a markdown link to the topic | 17:42:07 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | if you mention the github username in the outgoing e-mail (subject) and use a shared e-mail account then that will show up as a list of "people you have contacted" and their replies will be associated with that | 17:42:20 |
| infinisil | We can add these documents to the topic of every channel | 17:42:21 |
| edef | manual email -> link to clickthrough -> API-driven invite | 17:42:43 |
| edef | that's my best remaining shot at getting it to actually be read before you are capable of interacting with chat | 17:43:10 |
| edef | like, we have two purposes here: a) not giving people the excuse that they were not aware b) not catching out people who genuinely managed to miss it | 17:43:39 |
| infinisil | I don't think we should be blocked on this, this might take like another day to figure, but we should open Zulip today | 17:43:57 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | I do not feel strongly about the exact mechanism but I do feel strongly about presenting these rules to people on an individual and deliberate basis in some way | 17:44:09 |
| infinisil | * I don't think we should be blocked on this, this might take like another day to figure out, but we should open Zulip today | 17:44:13 |
| edef | we're all intelligent people here but this is a stressful and rushed time, so folks will miss things | 17:44:15 |
| infinisil | Let's be diligent about linking people to these docs | 17:44:33 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | simply because the cost of it not being read is high | 17:44:35 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | people generally do not read pinned things, is the proble | 17:44:49 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | * people generally do not read pinned things, is the problem | 17:44:50 |
| edef | so some flavour of "i solemnly swear i have read and will abide by these rules" seems important | 17:44:53 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | they need to actually be addressed to people | 17:44:59 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | they need to clearly and unambiguously register as "this is meant for you, not other people" in some manner | 17:45:24 |
| edef | and i think it's too subtle to tell whether people have or have not read + it's annoying to go "read pinned" | 17:45:33 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | the exact manner does not matter as long as that is satisfied | 17:45:38 |
| infinisil | Who can give me an estimate on how long this takes to implement? And who actually has the time and experience to implement this? | 17:46:43 |
| edef | okay, i think i can make a clickthrough fairly fast, few hours tops | 17:47:14 |
| edef | https://zulip.com/api/send-invites | 17:47:28 |
| edef | i can throw together a lil flask app real fast, basically | 17:47:53 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | infinisil: if "sending an e-mail to users is acceptable" then plan B is "create a shared e-mail account for all mods and contact people from there", which is jank but is guaranteed to be completable in a short timeframe (if the clickthrough does not work out) | 17:48:06 |
