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Zulip setup coordination

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Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/14330 Servers

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2 May 2024
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈 it is not mentioned in the public foundation room fwiw 17:40:01
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I mean, the only thing I can think of is "get explicit agreement by e-mail before creating their account for them" but this does introduce an extra roundtrip
i guess we can send a ~manual email alongside the invitation
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@edef1c:matrix.orgedef"READ THIS FIRST: Rules of Engagement"17:40:28
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈that is possible17:40:35
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefbut feels prone to getting lost in people's email streams17:40:39
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈yeah that was my concern with that17:40:47
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈 an explicit acknowledgment would be very helpful 17:40:54
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi'm too ADHD and i'm subscribed to too many email things17:41:10
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈I am inclined to say that it is maybe worth the extra roundtrip17:41:15
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefso i literally just fish the relevant thing out of my email when necessary17:41:22
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef does the API let us send out invites? 17:41:33
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHonestly I don't think that's feasible to keep track of17:41:33
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi could cook up a clickthrough17:41:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIn the "training in zulip" I just added a markdown link to the topic17:42:07
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈if you mention the github username in the outgoing e-mail (subject) and use a shared e-mail account then that will show up as a list of "people you have contacted" and their replies will be associated with that17:42:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWe can add these documents to the topic of every channel17:42:21
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefmanual email -> link to clickthrough -> API-driven invite17:42:43
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef that's my best remaining shot at getting it to actually be read before you are capable of interacting with chat 17:43:10
@edef1c:matrix.orgedeflike, we have two purposes here: a) not giving people the excuse that they were not aware b) not catching out people who genuinely managed to miss it17:43:39
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI don't think we should be blocked on this, this might take like another day to figure, but we should open Zulip today17:43:57
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈I do not feel strongly about the exact mechanism but I do feel strongly about presenting these rules to people on an individual and deliberate basis in some way17:44:09
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil * I don't think we should be blocked on this, this might take like another day to figure out, but we should open Zulip today17:44:13
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefwe're all intelligent people here but this is a stressful and rushed time, so folks will miss things17:44:15
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilLet's be diligent about linking people to these docs17:44:33
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈simply because the cost of it not being read is high17:44:35
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈people generally do not read pinned things, is the proble17:44:49
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈 * people generally do not read pinned things, is the problem17:44:50
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefso some flavour of "i solemnly swear i have read and will abide by these rules" seems important17:44:53
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈 they need to actually be addressed to people 17:44:59
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈they need to clearly and unambiguously register as "this is meant for you, not other people" in some manner17:45:24

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