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Zulip setup coordination

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Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/14331 Servers

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2 May 2024
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWe just need to agree to use invite links, and to send them to the email the user specified17:30:45
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefwe do lose the binding of invite link to user we intended to invite17:31:05
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefand we have to be mindful that we don't send out the same link twice17:31:17
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHmm yeah actually no that's a terrible idea17:31:45
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefrock, meet hard place17:32:03
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHold on, do invite links work for multiple users??17:32:18
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI'll try it out..17:32:45
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef thatΒ would really kill user binding 17:33:39
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIt sure does!17:35:01
@lovesegfault:matrix.orglovesegfault Is the Zulip up and running? 17:35:08
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAlright that's a no-go πŸ™ƒ17:35:08
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefany amnesty-covered users would have to be invited by an actually user-binding process, but we're emailing with them already, and have space to give them the message upfront17:35:10
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
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Alright that's a no-go πŸ™ƒ
ack, fair
17:35:21
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefif anyone has proposals for how we make it abundantly clear that the rules of engagement for this venue are Very Specific and you actually have to read them?17:35:52
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef * if anyone has proposals for how we make it abundantly clear that the rules of engagement for this venue are Very Specific and you actually have to read them, speak now17:35:57
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
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We could have a stream for the CoC and one for deescalation, only admins have write access, everybody's subscribed by default
This?
17:36:12
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefmm, the best shot i have left is "really really pin a message in a way you can't avoid"17:36:27
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefmaybe pin it to every channel17:36:38
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ infinisil: complaint about broken code of conduct link in the discourse signup thread 17:37:50
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefwell, at least a sign people are reading it :p17:38:06
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ(it is indeed broken but their suggestion of where it is meant to point, is wrong)17:38:07
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
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if anyone has proposals for how we make it abundantly clear that the rules of engagement for this venue are Very Specific and you actually have to read them, speak now
I mean, the only thing I can think of is "get explicit agreement by e-mail before creating their account for them" but this does introduce an extra roundtrip
17:39:01
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil The link will be valid once https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/pull/144 is merged :) Ron told me he's pinged the foundation channel, just waiting for upvotes 17:39:26
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ it is not mentioned in the public foundation room fwiw 17:40:01
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
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I mean, the only thing I can think of is "get explicit agreement by e-mail before creating their account for them" but this does introduce an extra roundtrip
i guess we can send a ~manual email alongside the invitation
17:40:18
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef"READ THIS FIRST: Rules of Engagement"17:40:28
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆthat is possible17:40:35
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefbut feels prone to getting lost in people's email streams17:40:39
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆyeah that was my concern with that17:40:47
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ an explicit acknowledgment would be very helpful 17:40:54

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