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 faye | That was on my to-do list frankly, I just haven't got around to switch yet | 14:00:59 |
 K900 | iff you want to use it with agenix, yes | 14:01:07 |
| faye | * That was on my to-do list frankly, I just haven't got around to switching yet | 14:01:07 |
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| 23 Nov 2025 |
 Alexandros Liarokapis | Hi there. Is there an actual security advantage of not keeping secrets decrypted at rest say at /var/lib/agenix/secrets or similar and instead decrypting on startup? What is the threat model here exactly? If they could get access to /var/lib/agenix/secrets or similar they should also be able to get access to private decryption keys | 23:12:11 |
| K900 | You still need to redecrypt on activation | 23:14:09 |
| K900 | And activation generally runs before everything else. | 23:14:17 |
| K900 | So it doesn't really matter in practice | 23:14:27 |
| K900 | I feel like a better question is, what are you trying to do where this difference matters? | 23:15:25 |
| Alexandros Liarokapis | The reason I am asking is because I am writing a small bitwarden secret manager module which would fetch secrets through network call so I want some way to store the secrets in case network is not available and thinking whether or not keeping encrypted at rest gives any security advantage. I can see this being the case if TPM is used to store the key for example but not for normal ssh keys. | 23:15:21 |
| Alexandros Liarokapis | idea is you add the machine-scoped/project-scoped/secret-scoped BWS key on /var/lib/bws/auth or similar. Rest of the interface is pretty much the same as agenix minus the age/ssh-specific configs and using .id instead of .file And I am kind of split between keeping the secrets at /var/lib/bws/secrets unencrypted but with proper permissions or encrypting with some identity key as agenix and decrypting on startup to /run/secrets but I don't think the latter gives any security advantage in practice, I /could/ use TPM however which would give some protection against stolen disk contents. | 23:19:08 |
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