| 24 Nov 2021 |
 ryblade | must be nice. | 13:32:53 |
| ryblade | i envy that you have such a perspective on things. | 13:33:34 |
 joepie91 π³οΈβπ | ryblade (you/your): I would also like to point out that you've been extremely provocative and aggressive in your comments over the past few days seemingly unprompted, and that your behaviour is not remotely consistent with principles of de-escalation and mediation | 13:33:49 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | this is going well beyond "I have some concerns" and into "fuck everybody else" | 13:34:25 |
| ryblade | i consider you to be provocative as well. my ilved experiences are invalid because you disagree with them? | 13:34:26 |
 Jonas Chevalier | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
(and I suspect that so will many others) do what you want, but bullying people into your opinion is not constructive | 13:34:33 |
| ryblade | that's quite something. | 13:34:36 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | ryblade (you/your): I am not invalidating your experiences. I am stating that I will not under any circumstances accept your stance of "people will just have to deal with whatever gets thrown at them, tough shit". | 13:35:18 |
| ryblade | but i also respect your right to free speech. | 13:35:22 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | which, again, is an abusive stance. | 13:35:38 |
| ryblade | so in this example, i would never ever consider asking for moderative | 13:35:45 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | and quite overtly so. | 13:35:46 |
| ryblade | * so in this example, i would never ever consider asking for moderative intervention. | 13:35:52 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | no, I'm sure you wouldn't. I don't see how that relates to what I'm saying - you're being the aggressor here, of course you would not ask for moderation. | 13:36:10 |
| ryblade | you deal with what is thrown at you in two clicks, it's easy. | 13:36:21 |
| Jonas Chevalier | πΏ | 13:36:29 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | again, you are leaving no space for other people's experiences and background | 13:36:38 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | Jonas Chevalier: I do not find that an appropriate comment here | 13:36:47 |
| Jonas Chevalier | it's fine, we can disagree on things | 13:37:13 |
| Jonas Chevalier | chill | 13:37:31 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | basically saying "hah, I'm enjoying this social conflict!" is escalation, not de-escalation | 13:37:31 |
| Jonas Chevalier | not every word we say should be held against us | 13:38:35 |
| Jonas Chevalier | I'm pretty sure ryblade (you/your) didn't condone personal attacks, right? | 13:39:06 |
 Domen KoΕΎar | I see this rfc is as productive as one would have thought it would end up :) I'm going to part, if someone is interested in my opinion they know where to ask me | 13:39:20 |
| Domen KoΕΎar left the room. | 13:39:27 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | Jonas Chevalier: they've been doing little else. | 13:39:32 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | In reply to @ryblade:matrix.org
i've got a few people on my blocklist already and i'm laughing at the idea of them being all confused and "WHY WON'T YOU FIGHT ME ARRGHGAHDFSHFKSDHF" comments like these, for example | 13:39:51 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | these are needlessly provocative comments, they do not contribute anything to the topic of discussion | 13:40:10 |
| ryblade | like i said, i'm less offended than i am envious. it must be very nice to have lived such a privileged and loving life that words on the internet are capable of cutting to the bone. it's something i contemplate the nature of quite often... still not sure if it's what i'd choose if i could do it all over again, though. | 13:40:23 |
| joepie91 π³οΈβπ | and certainly seem specifically intended to draw people out in conflict | 13:40:35 |
