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@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KoΕΎar joepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ fascism is not a defined term 15:56:27
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierThis whole Alt-left vs Alt-right is irrelevant to NixOS. Why are we even talking about that15:56:51
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆit's actually fairly well-defined, even if adherence to the definition is... not great15:56:52
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KoΕΎarHow do you define it then?15:57:17
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆbut feel free to replace it with "oppressive authoritarianism" if you prefer, for the purpose of this conversation they're mostly interchangeable15:57:31
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆand that's maybe a bit more of a "says it on the tin" term for it15:57:58
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierYou can be alt-right or alt-left and contribute to nixpkgs. Just don't come talk or try to impose your political views.15:58:01
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerI would really like to remove the political labels from the discussion. They have charged meaning, and are likely more disruptive to the conversation than productive15:58:24
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierWe are beings with multiple dimensions15:58:27
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierWe can have a productive conversation, and have different views of the world15:58:43
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefI've legit been losing sleep over this, so I'm going to leave the community for now. I legitimately wish you all well, and I hope from the bottom of my heart that together you come to a solution that works for everyone15:59:08
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
So it's allowed to be prejudiced based ona sum of identify but not on a sum of deliberate choices?
anyway, I was going to ask: I'm not entirely sure what you mean with this, can you clarify?
15:59:10
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerRFC 98 is about enacting a moderation team, the discussion should related to the content; without too much extra15:59:26
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefI bear no one any enmity, not even joepie. I apologize if my speech sounded accusative or rude. Thank you for your patience15:59:38
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@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KoΕΎar
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
but feel free to replace it with "oppressive authoritarianism" if you prefer, for the purpose of this conversation they're mostly interchangeable
Can we then replace it with that term, as I think it's less vague?
16:04:36
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ jonringer: also, did you understand what I meant with the point about sometimes needing 'policy shortcuts' for effective moderation? as that topic kinda got interrupted :p 16:04:38
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
Can we then replace it with that term, as I think it's less vague?
a term like that or similar sounds like it would be a good idea, yeah
16:05:04
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆthere's probably a more exact term that I can't immediately think of16:05:14
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆbut I'd personally consider that a reasonable change request16:05:37
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ(of course I am neither the author nor a shepherd of the RFC, so it's not really my decision :p but I would expect the responsible people to not have any issues with a clarification like this either)16:06:26
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KoΕΎarI would go into details of oppressive authoritarianism, but I don't want to derail the discussion more than I did already :)16:10:58

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