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25 Nov 2021
@irenes:matrix.orgIreneshow this should be codified is a hard question, because of "rules vs principles", but anyway those are my thoughts21:52:03
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesthat was tomberek21:52:53
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesseveral hours ago21:52:55
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesI'm just responding to scrollback21:52:58
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesI'm now caught up21:53:00
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org * oh i guess someone i can't see has already brought up the question of what actions must be taken to deal with me, that doesn't really surprise me. so i've become that dangerous, without even using a single slur.21:53:10
@irenes:matrix.orgIreneseconomic views would be entirely out of the scope of the community team and whatever economic systems community team members might believe in, they would be expected to put those views aside in their moderation actions21:53:30
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesas explicitly set forth in the RFC21:53:36
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesthe question was raised by tomberek, not by me. your fight is with him. but please have it in private.21:54:03
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenes I do find it ironic that you are complaining about not being able to see somebody else's remarks in the middle of a discussion in which you were advocating for blocking 21:54:40
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesit's hard to take that seriously since it seems like a contradiction21:55:02
@irenes:matrix.orgIrenesbut to the extent that this is a sincere complaint, again, I'm simply responding to the question that was raised, because I feel obligated to do that as a proponent of the RFC21:55:26
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
ryblade (you/your): I'd seriously appreciate an answer here, btw. I am asking because I do not want to assume your intent, but that is the only thing I can do without an answer from you
ryblade (you/your): pingback to ↑ and the backlog around it.
21:57:08
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org i don't know what stretch of the imagination is required to turn my observation into a complaint, especially if it's the outcome of my own actions. also i neither have tomberek blocked nor did it seem he was calling for action, if anything my take is that he was warning against witch hunts, not calling for one. 21:59:09
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgi mentioned it in the context of "oh, this happened", no plaintive language regarding not being able to see it was anywhere in what i said.22:01:56
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgobservation != complaint22:01:58
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgalso to clarify it's cultural marxism i'm concerned about, not economic.22:06:00
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org * it's more cultural marxism i'm concerned about spreading than anything.22:06:19
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org * also to clarify it's cultural marxism i'm concerned about in this context, economics aren't exactly relevant to a free operating system afaik22:06:52
@philipp:xndr.dephilipphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory22:12:53
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgwikipedia? please.22:13:06
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgof course they'd say that. but go ahead and pillory me, i suppose. here we f'n go.22:13:58
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgi mention something that wikipedia says is "far right antisemetic", all of a sudden i'm "adjacent", i know how this works.22:15:38
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @ryblade:matrix.org
of course they'd say that. but go ahead and pillory me, i suppose. here we f'n go.
Can you please stop with this "mimimi I'm a victim" bullshit? You really need to be able to paint yourself as oppressed in some way, don't you?
22:16:41
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgin a dictatorship, you can be arrested for simply living next door to a political dissident. that's how the term "adjacent" in the political context began. i'm not a victim but i'm expecting to become one soon now that political wikipedia articles are being posted. it's fine, if i dug myself into too deep a hole, so be it. my fate rests in the hands of the community, do with it what you decide is best.22:21:08
@philipp:xndr.dephilipphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection22:29:26
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgi guess my being a sexual minority, being in a relationship that's in a gray area of legality in my country, being born with a highly misunderstood form of neurodiversity, having multiple medical stigmas, surviving multiple forms of abuse, and coming from Jewish ancestry doesn't count for much whenever someone wants to paint my opinions as somehow belonging to the Nazis. i wasn't going to go into detail on every stupid little "minority" i belong to but i've been left no choice after such an accusation.22:30:11
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgthat's all i'm gonna say for now, time to take a break (inb4 shut up ryblade)22:30:14
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org * that's all i'm gonna say for now, time to take a break (inb4 shut up ryblade, block me if i trigger you so much)22:31:18
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgHow is this related to this discussion in any way?22:31:33

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