| 25 Nov 2021 |
 Irenes | in regards to the question about what to do about ryblade's dissent, I wouldn't personally suggest stopping it. having a position that would be abusive if enacted is a different thing from engaging in abusive ways. this channel is specifically for discussing this kind of disagreement. | 21:50:27 |
| Irenes | the line for action should be somewhere in the general vicinity of behavior that agrees with the normal functioning of the community for others. | 21:51:00 |
 ryblade | it's more marxism i'm concerned about spreading than anything. | 21:51:05 |
| Irenes | this discussion doesn't meet that bar. | 21:51:08 |
| ryblade | oh i guess someone i can't see has already brought up the question of what to do with me, that doesn't really surprise me. so i've become that dangerous, without even using a single slur. | 21:52:00 |
| Irenes | how this should be codified is a hard question, because of "rules vs principles", but anyway those are my thoughts | 21:52:03 |
| Irenes | that was tomberek | 21:52:53 |
| Irenes | several hours ago | 21:52:55 |
| Irenes | I'm just responding to scrollback | 21:52:58 |
| Irenes | I'm now caught up | 21:53:00 |
| ryblade | * oh i guess someone i can't see has already brought up the question of what actions must be taken to deal with me, that doesn't really surprise me. so i've become that dangerous, without even using a single slur. | 21:53:10 |
| Irenes | economic views would be entirely out of the scope of the community team and whatever economic systems community team members might believe in, they would be expected to put those views aside in their moderation actions | 21:53:30 |
| Irenes | as explicitly set forth in the RFC | 21:53:36 |
| Irenes | the question was raised by tomberek, not by me. your fight is with him. but please have it in private. | 21:54:03 |
| Irenes | I do find it ironic that you are complaining about not being able to see somebody else's remarks in the middle of a discussion in which you were advocating for blocking | 21:54:40 |
| Irenes | it's hard to take that seriously since it seems like a contradiction | 21:55:02 |
| Irenes | but to the extent that this is a sincere complaint, again, I'm simply responding to the question that was raised, because I feel obligated to do that as a proponent of the RFC | 21:55:26 |
 piegames | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
ryblade (you/your): I'd seriously appreciate an answer here, btw. I am asking because I do not want to assume your intent, but that is the only thing I can do without an answer from you ryblade (you/your): pingback to ↑ and the backlog around it. | 21:57:08 |
| ryblade | i don't know what stretch of the imagination is required to turn my observation into a complaint, especially if it's the outcome of my own actions. also i neither have tomberek blocked nor did it seem he was calling for action, if anything my take is that he was warning against witch hunts, not calling for one. | 21:59:09 |
| ryblade | i mentioned it in the context of "oh, this happened", no plaintive language regarding not being able to see it was anywhere in what i said. | 22:01:56 |
| ryblade | observation != complaint | 22:01:58 |
| ryblade | also to clarify it's cultural marxism i'm concerned about, not economic. | 22:06:00 |
| ryblade | * it's more cultural marxism i'm concerned about spreading than anything. | 22:06:19 |
| ryblade | * also to clarify it's cultural marxism i'm concerned about in this context, economics aren't exactly relevant to a free operating system afaik | 22:06:52 |
 philipp | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory | 22:12:53 |
| ryblade | wikipedia? please. | 22:13:06 |
| ryblade | of course they'd say that. but go ahead and pillory me, i suppose. here we f'n go. | 22:13:58 |
| ryblade | i mention something that wikipedia says is "far right antisemetic", all of a sudden i'm "adjacent", i know how this works. | 22:15:38 |
| piegames | In reply to @ryblade:matrix.org
of course they'd say that. but go ahead and pillory me, i suppose. here we f'n go. Can you please stop with this "mimimi I'm a victim" bullshit? You really need to be able to paint yourself as oppressed in some way, don't you? | 22:16:41 |
| ryblade | in a dictatorship, you can be arrested for simply living next door to a political dissident. that's how the term "adjacent" in the political context began. i'm not a victim but i'm expecting to become one soon now that political wikipedia articles are being posted. it's fine, if i dug myself into too deep a hole, so be it. my fate rests in the hands of the community, do with it what you decide is best. | 22:21:08 |
