| 22 Nov 2021 |
 @abathur:matrix.org | You have the power to ask if I meant a private or public log | 23:46:55 |
 @ryblade:matrix.org | i also have the power to not CONSENT to such a system in the first place, public or private. | 23:47:50 |
| @abathur:matrix.org | Sure | 23:48:07 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | and please refrain from demeaning me, i've already asked this once already | 23:48:37 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | reminding me i have the power and all that, honestly | 23:48:52 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | i am talking about blocking people being a personal virtue of mine, after all. i'm quite aware of the power that's available to me. but i'd prefer that we be capable of having a discussion without enmity. | 23:50:49 |
 Irenes | abathur: I appreciate you offering the correction about what you meant | 23:51:02 |
| Irenes | I do think misunderstandings happen | 23:51:09 |
| Irenes | you've corrected it now and I hope we can proceed to discuss what you were trying to say, not the manner it was said in | 23:51:29 |
| Irenes | and without making this personal | 23:51:35 |
| Irenes | I also am aware you're not fully at-keyboard now, and that this may not be the best time, and that's okay | 23:52:10 |
| @abathur:matrix.org | I don't really feel like thinking out loud with absolute all caps rejections based on inferences | 23:54:25 |
| @abathur:matrix.org | I think it's enough to sum it up: good history improves decisions | 23:55:05 |
| Irenes | all right. I have no authority here, but as somebody who cares about stuff, I think both of you have said your piece and I'd like to ask you both to take a break and cool down a bit. | 23:55:26 |
| @abathur:matrix.org | And part of good history is detaching the history mechanisms from punishment | 23:55:34 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org
I don't really feel like thinking out loud with absolute all caps rejections based on inferences it was one word and you were already warned about nit-picking over words and language policing | 23:55:38 |
| Irenes | you're free to ignore that request. | 23:55:39 |
| Irenes | but I think things will go better with a break. | 23:55:51 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org
I don't really feel like thinking out loud with absolute all caps rejections based on inferences * absolute? it was one word, and you were already warned about nit-picking over words and language policing | 23:56:03 |
| Irenes | that means both of you just to be clear | 23:56:24 |
| Irenes | stepping back only works if it's bilateral | 23:56:32 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | fair enough | 23:57:04 |
| Irenes | thanks <3 | 23:57:13 |
| @ryblade:matrix.org | i needed that, thanks | 23:57:13 |
| 23 Nov 2021 |
|  @server_stats:nordgedanken.dev left the room. | 04:07:29 |
| 24 Nov 2021 |
 @zimbatm:numtide.com | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
that is why we want to create a sustainable community team that helps equip the community with the tools they need to defuse most situations on their own without a community team member needing to be involved at all Is there any source material that we can use to learn more about the topic? | 10:13:06 |
| @zimbatm:numtide.com | I'm thinking, we could already setup a mediation or moderation channel, even without the RFC, for people that are interested in the topic. | 10:13:39 |
| @zimbatm:numtide.com | Especially mediation techniques is pretty interesting to me. I would rather people resolve their issues with one another rather than resorting to blocks. Blocks are sort of a bandaid. They create weird situations where people speak in the void because the other party has blocked them. It's a useful tool but it's also degrading the community as a whole. | 10:18:36 |
| Irenes | ashkitten should weigh in too, but I'm in favor of doing that, I just think there are situations where people won't engage in the same way, and some won't engage with the team at all, unless it has actual authority | 10:21:15 |
| @zimbatm:numtide.com | sure | 10:21:34 |
