22 Nov 2021 |
Irenes | with no real requirement for anyone to stay here | 23:31:57 |
Irenes | and to the extent there's a legal structure involved, it's a non-profit | 23:32:06 |
Irenes | so we don't have that pressure to keep things profitable | 23:32:14 |
Irenes | or whatever | 23:32:16 |
Irenes | and we can focus on doing what's right, instead | 23:32:25 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | In reply to @piegames:matrix.org Moreover, it isn't always worth it. Sometimes you just agree to disagree, decide that it's best to keep at mutual distance, and then move on. I don't need to be friends with everybody on the internet. very mature take. if anything, i think encouraging others to be like this would help foster a stronger community. | 23:32:27 |
Irenes | I do endorse that, it's just not right for every situation | 23:32:42 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | indeed. case by case. | 23:33:14 |
@abathur:matrix.org | in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y | 23:34:23 |
@abathur:matrix.org | without it having to be punitive | 23:34:39 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | i mean, after all, we're nix users at the end of the day. being self-sufficient is in our blood, i doubt there's going to be that many problems of people "running to the teacher" too often considering the caliber of our community. | 23:35:28 |
@abathur:matrix.org | and there's a little more context to bring to bear when someone decides to talk to them about it | 23:35:40 |
@piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y I think we do have this, at least for Discourse. But I generally agree. | 23:35:53 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y oh no no no no, hard disagree. that sounds almost like a pillory to me. | 23:36:04 |
| * joepie91 🏳️🌈 would like to remind everybody of the concept of the "missing stair" | 23:36:47 |
@abathur:matrix.org | maybe soften that and ask a curious question instead of slam the door | 23:36:48 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | besides, i tend to agree with a lot of people that others find offensive, people like me would just invert that list to find friends :D | 23:36:52 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | find the people with the most dislikes and say what's up | 23:37:04 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | my block lists are PRIVATE, i absolutely refuse to participate in any system that even so much as anonymously add those in my blocklist to a public database. there's far too much room for expanding the scope of such a thing for bigger and bigger privacy abuses. | 23:38:49 |
@ryblade:matrix.org | * my block lists are PRIVATE, i absolutely refuse to participate in any system that even so much as anonymously adds those in my blocklist to a public database. there's far too much room for expanding the scope of such a thing for bigger and bigger privacy abuses. | 23:39:08 |
@abathur:matrix.org | (note, I didn't say that it should be public; you've projected that) | 23:39:57 |
Irenes | I agree with ryblade here | 23:40:10 |
@abathur:matrix.org | anyways; dinner | 23:40:11 |
Irenes | mechanisms like that are cute for what they accomplish but the cost of tying it to private blocks is too great | 23:40:26 |
Irenes | in that it makes private blocks into something.... else | 23:40:32 |
Irenes | I've seen people legitimately feel brigaded by too many emoji reacts | 23:40:54 |
Irenes | this would be way worse in that you can't take the action to protect yourself without it sending a public social signal | 23:41:09 |
@abathur:matrix.org | I'll be on mobile maybe | 23:41:12 |
Irenes | hm | 23:41:41 |
Irenes | interesting thought about the log being private I guess | 23:41:48 |