| 7 Nov 2021 |
 Irenes | I think this analysis is a very quirky thing, specific to me. I've been through uh.... several moral frameworks over the course of my life. | 12:55:44 |
| Irenes | I'd be surprised if joepie or ashkitten entirely agrees with it. | 12:55:56 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | I don't disagree, I just also always consider 'harm caused by inaction' in the equation | 12:56:56 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | my life is, quite literally, a series of harm reduction tradeoff considerations | 12:57:19 |
| Irenes | sure, yeah, there's this concept of a "moral hazard" which holds that people who don't pull the lever in a trolley problem are never culpable, but people who do, are. | 12:57:41 |
| Irenes | and I don't buy that concept at all. | 12:57:48 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | (also, I am quite literally painfully aware of the harm caused) | 13:01:31 |
| Irenes | I am weighing the cost of inaction, here, I was trying to allude to that. that cost is high. I just don't think it's so high that there aren't people in my position who would have walked away. | 13:02:00 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | ah, in that sense, right. | 13:02:46 |
| Irenes | like if I'm taking the blame for somebody else's actions, I want to distinguish the cases where I'd do that from straight-up extortion, where I would take a dramatically lessened share of blame | 13:03:35 |
| Irenes | that's the philosophical nuance here | 13:03:41 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | oh no, I've been hackernews'ed | 13:04:13 |
| Irenes | someone posted about you? I'm so sorry | 13:04:29 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | rather a gist of mine | 13:04:37 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | so yeah, if I seem inattentive over the next couple of days, it's probably because of the fallout from that | 13:05:01 |
| Irenes | my sympathies. feel free to message 1:1 if you need emotional support, my friends and I have been in many analogous situations and I'm always happy to listen. | 13:05:24 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | thanks | 13:05:45 |
 @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
oh no, I've been hackernews'ed What for? Related to Nix? | 13:09:57 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | ESM | 13:13:27 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | but I don't want to take over this channel with complaints about HN, it was more just a comment of "here's why I'm gonna be a bit absent probably" :) | 13:15:39 |
| 12 Nov 2021 |
| Room Avatar Renderer. | 03:56:47 |
| 14 Nov 2021 |
|  @colemickens:matrix.org joined the room. | 07:23:45 |
| 21 Nov 2021 |
|  ryblade set a profile picture. | 20:42:48 |
| ryblade changed their display name from ryblade to ryblade (you/your). | 21:32:49 |
| 22 Nov 2021 |
 hexa | https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671 | 16:00:06 |
| ryblade | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671 whoa | 16:12:32 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | There's been some drama around the core team a few weeks ago, but wow | 16:13:57 |
| ryblade | absolutely nuts | 16:14:31 |
| ryblade | wonder if this is in response to the ashley williams stuff or not | 16:19:59 |
| hexa | also https://mobile.twitter.com/adamhjk/status/1462812661356265473 | 16:26:22 |
