| 3 Nov 2021 |
 ryblade | i'm new here so go easy on me, i don't know what all the "bad words" are yet | 19:08:52 |
 infinisil | I don't mind "them" vs "authoritarian", I mind "authoritarian" a bit, imo it dismisses individual users and indicates that there's an "us" and "we", aka a split community | 19:08:55 |
| ryblade | oh god | 19:09:26 |
 GallantChef | Isn't that the truth? There are very clearly people pushing for authoritarian policy | 19:09:28 |
| ryblade | first you want us to stop saying them | 19:09:31 |
| ryblade | and then when we are more clear, you're offended by that | 19:09:36 |
| GallantChef | And there are very clearly people pushing against that | 19:09:37 |
| ryblade | holy moly | 19:09:39 |
| GallantChef | If two groups are pushing against one another, are they not divided? | 19:09:51 |
| ryblade | am i supposed to wear my fingers to dust writing an essay on what specifically i mean by an authoritarian? | 19:10:37 |
| GallantChef | I just want to know what the objective truth is here | 19:10:43 |
| GallantChef | Maybe my perception is flawed | 19:10:50 |
| GallantChef | But others seem to agree with my view | 19:10:56 |
| infinisil | ryblade: You're being very flamey, can you please not? I'm just stating my opinion | 19:11:35 |
| ryblade | could you please then be more clear about what you want from me? i'm feeling rather frustrated atm. | 19:12:26 |
| infinisil | I want to have a respectful discussion | 19:12:43 |
 jonringer | ryblade: I would really like this discussion to be for the betterment of the nixos ecosystem. Picking apart diction choice isn't really helping move toward a satisfactory resolution | 19:12:55 |
| ryblade | as do i | 19:12:59 |
| GallantChef | Shall we digress and focus on the implementation of the CoC then? | 19:13:18 |
| jonringer | In reply to @gallantchef:matrix.foxears.life
Shall we digress and focus on the implementation of the CoC then? sure. I'm drafting the RFC now, but I'm going to be basing it upon the rust CoC. | 19:13:47 |
| jonringer | if anyone has any objections to the language of https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct let me know | 19:14:01 |
| GallantChef | It's quite succinct, and I struggle to find anything to complain about | 19:14:38 |
| infinisil | ryblade: I guess I wasn't clear that this isn't really a big concern for me, I personally think labels are overrated, but honestly they do probably have some fair uses, and this might be one of them. I'm not offended at all, I just wanted to tell you about this opinion of mine :) Does that sound fair to you? | 19:15:03 |
| GallantChef | jonringer, I guess one thing that concerns me is in the moderation section "hateful, hurtful, oppressive, or exclusionary remarks" | 19:17:14 |
| GallantChef | I feel like that's kind of nebulous, and can be interpreted in convenient manners | 19:17:24 |
| jonringer | In reply to @gallantchef:matrix.foxears.life
jonringer, I guess one thing that concerns me is in the moderation section "hateful, hurtful, oppressive, or exclusionary remarks" none of that should exist if the majority of discussion is technical | 19:17:36 |
| GallantChef | Just like that one person took something as sexist, even though it wasn't | 19:17:40 |
| GallantChef | Agreed | 19:17:41 |
| GallantChef | Could make that value point | 19:17:48 |
| ryblade | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
ryblade: I guess I wasn't clear that this isn't really a big concern for me, I personally think labels are overrated, but honestly they do probably have some fair uses, and this might be one of them. I'm not offended at all, I just wanted to tell you about this opinion of mine :) Does that sound fair to you? very much, and thank you. much appreciated. | 19:17:49 |
