| 22 Nov 2021 |
 ryblade | In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
Moreover, it isn't always worth it. Sometimes you just agree to disagree, decide that it's best to keep at mutual distance, and then move on. I don't need to be friends with everybody on the internet. very mature take. if anything, i think encouraging others to be like this would help foster a stronger community. | 23:32:27 |
 Irenes | I do endorse that, it's just not right for every situation | 23:32:42 |
| ryblade | indeed. case by case. | 23:33:14 |
 abathur | in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y | 23:34:23 |
| abathur | without it having to be punitive | 23:34:39 |
| ryblade | i mean, after all, we're nix users at the end of the day. being self-sufficient is in our blood, i doubt there's going to be that many problems of people "running to the teacher" too often considering the caliber of our community. | 23:35:28 |
| abathur | and there's a little more context to bring to bear when someone decides to talk to them about it | 23:35:40 |
 piegames | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org
in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y I think we do have this, at least for Discourse. But I generally agree. | 23:35:53 |
| ryblade | In reply to @abathur:matrix.org
in this narrow context I guess I just mean that the problem with "just block them" isn't that you shouldn't just block them; it's that the community could in theory benefit from having a log that says a dozen contributors have blocked X for Y oh no no no no, hard disagree. that sounds almost like a pillory to me. | 23:36:04 |
| *  joepie91 🏳️🌈 would like to remind everybody of the concept of the "missing stair" | 23:36:47 |
| abathur | maybe soften that and ask a curious question instead of slam the door | 23:36:48 |
| ryblade | besides, i tend to agree with a lot of people that others find offensive, people like me would just invert that list to find friends :D | 23:36:52 |
| ryblade | find the people with the most dislikes and say what's up | 23:37:04 |
| ryblade | my block lists are PRIVATE, i absolutely refuse to participate in any system that even so much as anonymously add those in my blocklist to a public database. there's far too much room for expanding the scope of such a thing for bigger and bigger privacy abuses. | 23:38:49 |
| ryblade | * my block lists are PRIVATE, i absolutely refuse to participate in any system that even so much as anonymously adds those in my blocklist to a public database. there's far too much room for expanding the scope of such a thing for bigger and bigger privacy abuses. | 23:39:08 |
| abathur | (note, I didn't say that it should be public; you've projected that) | 23:39:57 |
| Irenes | I agree with ryblade here | 23:40:10 |
| abathur | anyways; dinner | 23:40:11 |
| Irenes | mechanisms like that are cute for what they accomplish but the cost of tying it to private blocks is too great | 23:40:26 |
| Irenes | in that it makes private blocks into something.... else | 23:40:32 |
| Irenes | I've seen people legitimately feel brigaded by too many emoji reacts | 23:40:54 |
| Irenes | this would be way worse in that you can't take the action to protect yourself without it sending a public social signal | 23:41:09 |
| abathur | I'll be on mobile maybe | 23:41:12 |
| Irenes | hm | 23:41:41 |
| Irenes | interesting thought about the log being private I guess | 23:41:48 |
| Irenes | like visible only to moderators maybe? | 23:41:53 |
| Irenes | I don't think that would be right for this proposal, because we're trying to minimize the extent to which the community team's formal power places them above the rest of the community | 23:42:17 |
| Irenes | like there's a need for there to be some or this wouldn't work because bad actors would refuse to engage with it | 23:42:31 |
| Irenes | but we want it to be just the essential elements | 23:42:39 |
| Irenes | but it could well be the right idea for a different community, with different goals | 23:42:53 |
