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3 Nov 2021
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefIsn't that the truth? There are very clearly people pushing for authoritarian policy 19:09:28
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladefirst you want us to stop saying them19:09:31
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladeand then when we are more clear, you're offended by that19:09:36
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefAnd there are very clearly people pushing against that19:09:37
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladeholy moly19:09:39
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefIf two groups are pushing against one another, are they not divided?19:09:51
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladeam i supposed to wear my fingers to dust writing an essay on what specifically i mean by an authoritarian?19:10:37
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefI just want to know what the objective truth is here19:10:43
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefMaybe my perception is flawed 19:10:50
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefBut others seem to agree with my view19:10:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil ryblade: You're being very flamey, can you please not? I'm just stating my opinion 19:11:35
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladecould you please then be more clear about what you want from me? i'm feeling rather frustrated atm.19:12:26
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI want to have a respectful discussion19:12:43
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer ryblade: I would really like this discussion to be for the betterment of the nixos ecosystem. Picking apart diction choice isn't really helping move toward a satisfactory resolution 19:12:55
@ryblade:matrix.orgrybladeas do i19:12:59
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefShall we digress and focus on the implementation of the CoC then? 19:13:18
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
In reply to @gallantchef:matrix.foxears.life
Shall we digress and focus on the implementation of the CoC then?
sure. I'm drafting the RFC now, but I'm going to be basing it upon the rust CoC.
19:13:47
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerif anyone has any objections to the language of https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct let me know19:14:01
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefIt's quite succinct, and I struggle to find anything to complain about 19:14:38
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil ryblade: I guess I wasn't clear that this isn't really a big concern for me, I personally think labels are overrated, but honestly they do probably have some fair uses, and this might be one of them. I'm not offended at all, I just wanted to tell you about this opinion of mine :) Does that sound fair to you? 19:15:03
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChef jonringer, I guess one thing that concerns me is in the moderation section "hateful, hurtful, oppressive, or exclusionary remarks" 19:17:14
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefI feel like that's kind of nebulous, and can be interpreted in convenient manners 19:17:24
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
In reply to @gallantchef:matrix.foxears.life
jonringer, I guess one thing that concerns me is in the moderation section "hateful, hurtful, oppressive, or exclusionary remarks"
none of that should exist if the majority of discussion is technical
19:17:36
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefJust like that one person took something as sexist, even though it wasn't 19:17:40
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefAgreed19:17:41
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefCould make that value point 19:17:48
@ryblade:matrix.orgryblade
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
ryblade: I guess I wasn't clear that this isn't really a big concern for me, I personally think labels are overrated, but honestly they do probably have some fair uses, and this might be one of them. I'm not offended at all, I just wanted to tell you about this opinion of mine :) Does that sound fair to you?
very much, and thank you. much appreciated.
19:17:49
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChef * Could make that a value point 19:17:51
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChefDoes anyone have any objections to advocating for a focus on technically discussion? 19:18:40
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeGallantChef * Does anyone have any objections to advocating for a focus on technical discussion? 19:18:46

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