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3 Nov 2021
@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.life@gallantchef:matrix.foxears.lifeAfaict 20:31:04
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgdamn, that's considered a bad quality now?20:31:36
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org
In reply to @ryblade:matrix.org
what's the deal, is he just brusque like torvalds and it gets people's dander up? honestly don't know anything about his character.
his desire for conformity of nix contributions clashed a lot with the existing culture.
20:31:38
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgi wish my brain would let me say things in less words, wow20:31:53
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.orgAnd doubling down on his efforts just made things worse.20:32:27
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org * And doubling down on his efforts (automated reviews, pedantic review comments, etc) just made things worse.20:32:56
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgah, i understand.20:33:34
@abathur:matrix.org@abathur:matrix.orgsome people get annoyed when someone merges a PR for a package they're listed as the maintainer of without waiting for their review20:33:57
@abathur:matrix.org@abathur:matrix.orgdoubly so when it breaks the package or some of its consumers20:34:07
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org

Not everyone values minimal responses. Him being short, was perceived as rude: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/120729#discussion_r621617554

a) You're lacking context. Sandro has previously been petty and rude when reviewing PRs I've made. Please don't jump in and assume things. While I have him blocked, GitHub doesn't actually do anything other than show this to him, filter notification e-mails to me, and hide random pieces of the UI. Since Sandro hasn't taken the hint by now that maybe it's impolite to continue harassing someone who has asked them to stop doing so, I think actually giving him a response at all is being more courteous than is necessary.

20:34:43
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgsounds like his heart may have been in the right place even if his actions were not... god, i hate these tough calls.20:34:57
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgjudging by deviant's description of github's block feature, sounds like github itself may need a few pull requests of its own :D20:35:24
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.organyway, i gotta get out of here, i'm late for something, this discussion is too damn interesting20:35:56
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgit seems like at least clear heads are prevailing for now, i feel reassured coming here and talking with all of you :)20:37:40
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.orgAnd that's not why I'm a big fan of the block "feature". Sure, if someone is targeting you specifically, then you can still use the platform. But when it's just someone's involvement, and they are acting in bad faith.... then... something failed and someone felt it was necessary to go the blocking route instead of some arbitration20:38:09
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org * And that's not why I'm not a big fan of the block "feature". Sure, if someone is targeting you specifically, then you can still use the platform. But when it's just someone's involvement, and they are acting in bad faith.... then... something failed and someone felt it was necessary to go the blocking route instead of some arbitration20:38:18
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org * And that's not why I'm not a big fan of the block "feature". Sure, if someone is targeting you specifically, then you can still use the platform if you block them. But when it's just someone's involvement, and they are acting in bad faith.... then... something failed and someone felt it was necessary to go the blocking route instead of some arbitration20:38:29
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org * And that's not why I'm not a big fan of the block "feature". Sure, if someone is targeting you specifically, then you can still use the platform if you block them. But when it's just someone's involvement, and they are acting in good faith.... then... something failed and someone felt it was necessary to go the blocking route instead of some arbitration20:38:39
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org * And that's not why I'm not a big fan of the block "feature". Sure, if someone is targeting you specifically, then you can still use the platform if you block them. But when it's just someone's involvement, and they are acting in good faith.... then... something failed when someone felt it was necessary to go the blocking route instead of some arbitration20:39:02
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.orgin the case of those who abuse blocking they're only really hurting their own projects, imo20:39:19
@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org * in the case of those who abuse blocking to shut out everyone they dislike, they're only really hurting their own projects by shutting out talent, imo20:40:01
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@ryblade:matrix.org@ryblade:matrix.org take care jonringer, and good luck with your draft 20:51:12
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