| 24 Nov 2021 |
 ryblade | no loss, plenty of civil people on here to continue discussions with. | 13:16:34 |
| ryblade | mostly no, but there's no universal binary to any of my decision making. | 13:17:00 |
 Jonas Chevalier | topics like moderation tend to bring in morals into play, which is usually where discussions turn bad | 13:17:44 |
| Jonas Chevalier | I see a lot of fake enemies | 13:18:10 |
| ryblade | i had to block someone recently from an email list who had a false sense of expertise, that person was making it impossible to discuss tech solutions among the group without getting into arguments due to this person not only needing constant correction, but also hiding behind the victim card whenever it happened. that just ground the entire tech discussion to a halt. | 13:19:05 |
| ryblade | but i don't really encounter that much on here. | 13:19:41 |
| Jonas Chevalier | my understanding is that the RFC rewrite will clarify the "enforcing cultural norms" bit | 13:20:31 |
| ryblade | there was someone on this very room recently who would take everything a person says and then twist it into something worse, gaslighting everyone just to start an argument. it happens. that individual wasn't looking to resolve conflict, but to create it. once that became obvious enough, after repeated attempts to have a civil discussion, i took it upon myself to prevent further conflict. you may call it low-effort, i call it the highest achievable amount of effort my opponent was offering me, anything higher than that was clearly going to be impossible. | 13:23:32 |
| Jonas Chevalier |
one part of law that's not often considered, but is often the solution, is non-enforcement.
That's also something I was thinking about recently. As a community, every member can help move conversations towards positive outcomes and give constructive feedback to each-other. I think that what has been largely happening (of course it's not perfect).
One risk of strengthening the moderation team is that it might lead to the community leaning on it too much instead of doing its own job.
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