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23 Nov 2024
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* There's a little bit of (unrelated) Maven discussion about mvn2nix above if you're interested 🙂19:17:33
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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We should probably:
  • Post a call for maintainers on Discourse

  • Wait a week

  • If nobody responds, rip it out as mentioned above

  • If someone responds, collaborate on moving the builder and docs to the upstream repo

Oh, looks like there's a live "fork" owned by fzakaria: https://github.com/fzakaria/mvn2nix
19:20:37
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)...which is looking for maintainers 😂19:21:34
@tricktron:matrix.orgtricktron
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There's a little bit of (unrelated) Maven discussion about mvn2nix above if you're interested 🙂
Don't know much about mvn2nix unfortunately.
19:22:04
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35856220:22:35
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Speak now or forever hold your peace!20:22:49
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)(Running nixpkgs-review to make sure we don't break anything in-tree accidentally)20:23:29
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Confirmed to not break anything in-tree20:38:28
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Oh, looks like there's a live "fork" owned by fzakaria, the original dev: https://github.com/fzakaria/mvn2nix20:50:04
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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we really ought to just shim in our own local FS repository and build everything from source but 🙃
Can we assume anything about the build system the dependencies use? Or would we have to determine that first
20:51:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI assume every dependency would build with whatever its build system is and spit out jars that we integrate in the maven repository format or such20:56:20
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Interesting. Looks like one can specify a classpath through META-INF/MANIFEST.MF inside of JARs, to allow Java libraries to find their dependencies automatically... in theory 22:12:05
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Interesting. Looks like one can specify a Class-Path through META-INF/MANIFEST.MF inside of JARs, to allow Java libraries to find their dependencies automatically... in theory 22:12:22
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)(ant-contrib is a 20-year-old beast)22:18:21
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Yes, it has had no releases since 200622:27:48
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)There is a newer fork last updated two or so years ago22:28:02
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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Interesting. Looks like one can specify a Class-Path through META-INF/MANIFEST.MF inside of JARs, to allow Java libraries to find their dependencies automatically... in theory
... and the jar utility has a specific option for intelligently amending the manifest
23:00:05
24 Nov 2024
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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yeah, poke me in a few days (if everything is ready) and I'll try to look. trying to take it easy for a few days (we'll see if I manage 🙃)
Does this count as a few days? 🙃
00:00:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'll try and look some time tonight00:08:06
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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I'll try and look some time tonight
No rush if I was too soon
00:14:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyno worries :)00:15:20
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Currently hunting for packages that provide Ant task providers and adding a symlink in the spot expected by ant.hook01:57:58
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Found a few thanks to nix-index. Will PR that in later04:34:52
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)(Also, there are so many packages that have Ant in their output, but don't need it to be there)04:38:51
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Wondering if we should drop the programs.java NixOS module, since it's impure and only has two in-tree consumers (packages should make a wrapper that calls jdk/jre, developers should be using devShells) 22:25:12
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Pinging @FliegendeWurst @chayleaf @Infinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️ for input 22:28:18
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Pinging @FliegendeWurst @chayleaf @Infinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️ for input (others welcome to chime in too, of course) 22:28:37
@infinidoge:inx.moeInfinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️The main benefit of the Java module is that it let's end consumers emulate a more standard Linux distribution for running programs that use Java internally, so I don't think it being impure is strictly a reason to remove it in this case22:30:00
@infinidoge:inx.moeInfinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️At minimum though in-tree consumers can be rewritten away from it22:30:25
@infinidoge:inx.moeInfinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️* The main benefit of the Java module is that it lets end consumers emulate a more standard Linux distribution for running programs that use Java internally, so I don't think it being impure is strictly a reason to remove it in this case22:30:41

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