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23 Nov 2024
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily e.g. from cmake to cmakeHook or such 01:47:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybeginners generally find it confusing that adding a dependency restructures how their entire build works, and separate hooks give us natural configuration points to do things like e.g. propagating Ninja for faster CMake builds without polluting the CMake package itself01:48:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(haven't seen the comment, maybe what I'm saying is irrelevant)01:48:31
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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(haven't seen the comment, maybe what I'm saying is irrelevant)
Completely relevant, Toma mentioned that the alphabet causes regressions because of the implicit hook (the big one was that ant comes before cmake)
01:49:49
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)(Aside: The Alphabet of Nixpkgs)01:50:03
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* (Aside: The Alphabet of Nixpkgs song when /lh)01:50:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyguess we'll have to pin an old version of the alphabet01:50:31
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Don't forget to add it to stdenv!01:51:00
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
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I recommend antHook or ant.hook, there is some desire to move away from implicit hooks in general
Thinking about this more, this would also mean that we wouldn't need to put this PR into staging (we'd need to put the other refactors in there though), since the Ant package's closure is unchanged
02:56:21
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Thus, it's also infinitely easier to review02:56:39
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Thus, it's also infinitely easier to review (rebuild a few packages vs all 800 dependencies)02:57:00
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Thus, it's also infinitely easier to review (rebuild a few packages vs all 800 dependencies), so I'll be unblocked faster02:58:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysgtm02:58:51
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Thus, it's also infinitely easier to review (rebuild a few select packages vs all 800 dependencies), so I'll be unblocked faster02:59:12
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)You're good at talking people out of bad design decisions :)03:00:11
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysometimes I talk people into them just to shake it up 😈03:00:39
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)To hardcode or not to hardcode the path to the Ant executable, that is the question03:04:03
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* To hardcode or not to hardcode the path to the Ant executable in the hook, that is the question03:04:13
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) Okay, refactored everything to use a separate ant.hook package, down to 6 commits (versus the 14 before) 03:41:45
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Presumably rebuilds are under 20 now (being generous with the amount of indirect dependencies)03:44:30
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) vuze... needs some TLC, if it's even maintained upstream anymore 04:02:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit is not04:03:48
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Oh wonderful, CVE with a 9.8 severity from 2018. Last time the package was updated was 201704:12:49
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)(CVE-2018-13417 for the curious)04:13:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily🤪04:16:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily time for the knownVulnerabilities + removal dance 04:17:06
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) You know it! About to do the first movement, titled vuze: drop 04:18:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily oh it's broken = true; 04:31:00
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilynot exactly security critical then04:31:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily Tomodachi94 (they/them): can you move the release note to 24.11 04:31:36

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