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1 Nov 2024
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org
I'll go ahead and PR a fix that makes it use the jre attribute, then another that drops the OracleJDKs
would you mind knownVulnerabilitiesing the Oracle JDKs on 24.05 too? no need to go CVE-hunting, can just say e.g. "Not updated for 4 years, many disclosed vulnerabilities"
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2 Nov 2024
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)
In reply to@emilazy:matrix.org
would you mind knownVulnerabilitiesing the Oracle JDKs on 24.05 too? no need to go CVE-hunting, can just say e.g. "Not updated for 4 years, many disclosed vulnerabilities"
Sure :) I'll do that first, then drop on master once it's merged
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@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Hmm, does anyone have a good link for the oraclejdk knownVulns entry?00:41:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://openjdk.org/groups/vulnerability/advisories/00:44:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't suggest trying to list every single applicable CVE, because there are so many00:44:22
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Yes definitely, this should have been dropped a while ago afaict00:50:08
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them) casually writes knownVulns entry with 50+ CVEs listed /joking 00:50:52
* @emilazy:matrix.orgemily requests changes – the convention is one CVE per entry00:51:08
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Done at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35303400:58:45
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhm, I'm pretty sure 8 and 11 are supported: https://endoflife.date/oracle-jdk00:59:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's just that nobody has been updating ours01:00:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(and there is no reason to, because… it's just an OpenJDK build with a bad licence)01:00:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyor maybe not for the free ones??01:01:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's Oracle so it's of course incomprehensible01:02:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://www.oracle.com/uk/java/technologies/javase/javase8u211-later-archive-downloads.html 8u421 is available at least.01:03:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(just a message nit, not a proposal to handle the situation differently)01:03:42
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Hmm maybe we just drop it right away and leave 24.05 alone?01:11:26
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)I'll see if anyone on the Fediverse knows what's up with Oracle JDK01:13:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysorry, I'm a bit confused01:13:46
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's nothing up with Oracle JDK except that it has a weird licence and is pointless to use since you can get OpenJDKs with normal licences01:13:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe problem with our package is that nobody has updated it with 2021, and clearly nobody will, and even if they would there's no reason for us to carry it since it's just a footgun to use it01:14:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily * the problem with our package is that nobody has updated it since 2021, and clearly nobody will, and even if they would there's no reason for us to carry it since it's just a footgun to use it01:14:24
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Oh, so it's OpenJDK with the Oracle nametag01:14:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it should definitely get knownVulnerabilities on 24.05, since it's unsafe to use 01:14:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah01:14:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand a really onerous licence01:14:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's basically no reason for it to exist beyond Oracle's business model of entrapping people into having to pay them money01:15:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyin the past, we carried it for AArch64, apparently01:15:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily per doc/languages-frameworks/java.section.md 01:15:54

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