| 1 Nov 2024 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Alright, I'll unadopt OracleJDK, Semeru, Zulu, and the JetBrains stuff with the assumption that we'll drop all except for the last one eventually
| 18:12:27 |
 emily | I think probably Semeru would stay? I assume some people use the OpenJ9 thing | 18:21:57 |
| emily | Temurin and Semeru are copy-pastes currently, and their Linux and Darwin versions are copy-pastes too, it's a fractal copy-paste | 18:22:14 |
| emily | if that can all be unified into one then the maintenance burden should be fine | 18:22:21 |
| emily | I had toyed with the idea of using Zulu instead of Temurin because it gets us JDK 8 on aarch64-darwin, but it's probably best to stay more upstream; we'd have to build from the Zulu sources to bootstrap a source JDK 8 with it anyway | 18:23:08 |
| emily | and JDK 8 is dying in, oh, only two short years anyway | 18:23:33 |
| emily | (personally I would be happy to see it gone from Nixpkgs sooner than that, some distros have already dropped it and there's "only" like 50 packages that depend on it) | 18:24:23 |
| emily | (some of which can probably be bumped) | 18:24:27 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I feel old now, I remember when you could only play Minecraft with JDK 8 😂
| 18:24:26 |
| emily | buddy, I remember when you couldn't play Minecraft with JDK 8 | 18:24:57 |
| emily | 🧓 | 18:25:02 |
| emily | I think Infinidoge linked some project that ports old Minecraft versions to newer JDKs, because of course that's a thing | 18:25:27 |
 Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | lwjgl3ify
Currently only for 1.7.10 (because the GregTech New Horizons team is cracked) but it'll likely get ported | 18:28:50 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | It's a mod that replaces the old game engine with a newer one, and I think stops Forge from yelling | 18:29:15 |
| emily | it would be nice enough just to get rid of the stuff in the tree that uses JDK 8 so that we can drop the source package, while still keeping the Temurin binary build until it dies (since it's low-maintenance and doesn't add cruft) | 18:31:14 |
| emily | I first played Minecraft on the Halloween Update and I felt like I was late to the party because there was never a time when I played it without the Nether. | 18:32:18 |
| emily | time flies. | 18:32:22 |
| emily | actually no I played classic for like 5 minutes once before that. | 18:32:32 |
| emily | the real old heads are the ones who played with the neon green leaves | 18:33:22 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Looks like the only in-tree consumer of OracleJDK is javacard-devkit | 20:51:29 |
| emily | which is some other proprietary Oracle stuff that hasn't been updated since it was added in 2019 | 21:02:04 |
| emily | "Oracle has already released 3.0.5, but versions after 2.2.2 appear to be Windows-only." and was, um, a major version behind at that point? | 21:02:20 |
| emily | I think we can kill it, but I'd assume it would work with OpenJDK too since I'm pretty sure our Oracle JDK is just an OpenJDK build without anything too fancy? | 21:02:49 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I'll go ahead and PR a fix that makes it use the jre attribute, then another that drops the OracleJDKs | 23:53:54 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I'll also try to find out whether java-devkit is even maintained, and drop it after the feature freeze | 23:54:45 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | * I'll also try to find out whether javacard-devkit is even maintained, and drop it after the feature freeze | 23:54:53 |
| emily | fwiw the author has not contributed to NixOS all year | 23:54:54 |
| emily | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
"Oracle has already released 3.0.5, but versions after 2.2.2 appear to be Windows-only." and was, um, a major version behind at that point? it's sort of definitionally unmaintained though given ^ | 23:55:06 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh missed that, my bad | 23:55:23 |
| emily | I just checked: looks like it's from 2006? | 23:56:04 |
