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@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan
error: builder for '/nix/store/g0csixy7mfs561pfwp27p1h41vkbp7w0-perl-5.40.0.drv' failed with exit code 2;
       last 25 log lines:
       >       |                          ^
       > 1 warning generated.
       > cc -c -DPERL_CORE -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -mmacosx-version-min=11.3 -DNO_THREAD_SAFE_QUERYLOCALE -DNO_POSIX_2008_LOCALE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -I/nix/store/x7208q6wn3g00398kdxi0pgpy9s47m1q-libSystem-B/include -std=c99 -O3 -Wall -Werror=pointer-arith -Werror=vla -Wextra -Wno-long-long -Wno-declaration-after-statement -Wc++-compat -Wwrite-strings util.c
       > In file included from util.c:26:
       > In file included from ./perl.h:6186:
       > ./proto.h:2409:26: warning: identifier 'wchar_t' conflicts with a C++ keyword [-Wc++-keyword]
       >  2409 | Perl_mbtowc_(pTHX_ const wchar_t *pwc, const char *s, const Size_t len);
       >       |                          ^
       > 1 warning generated.
       > cc -c -DPERL_CORE -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -mmacosx-version-min=11.3 -DNO_THREAD_SAFE_QUERYLOCALE -DNO_POSIX_2008_LOCALE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -I/nix/store/x7208q6wn3g00398kdxi0pgpy9s47m1q-libSystem-B/include -std=c99 -O3 -Wall -Werror=pointer-arith -Werror=vla -Wextra -Wno-long-long -Wno-declaration-after-statement -Wc++-compat -Wwrite-strings miniperlmain.c
       > In file included from miniperlmain.c:57:
       > In file included from ./perl.h:6186:
       > ./proto.h:2409:26: warning: identifier 'wchar_t' conflicts with a C++ keyword [-Wc++-keyword]
       >  2409 | Perl_mbtowc_(pTHX_ const wchar_t *pwc, const char *s, const Size_t len);
       >       |                          ^
       > 1 warning generated.
       > cc -mmacosx-version-min=11.3 -fstack-protector-strong -L/nix/store/x7208q6wn3g00398kdxi0pgpy9s47m1q-libSystem-B/lib -force_flat_namespace -o miniperl \
       >     opmini.o perlmini.o universalmini.o av.o builtin.o caretx.o class.o deb.o doio.o doop.o dquote.o dump.o globals.o gv.o hv.o keywords.o locale.o mathoms.o mg.o mro_core.o numeric.o pad.o peep.o perlio.o perly.o pp.o pp_ctl.o pp_hot.o pp_pack.o pp_sort.o pp_sys.o reentr.o regcomp.o regcomp_debug.o regcomp_invlist.o regcomp_study.o regcomp_trie.o regexec.o run.o scope.o sv.o taint.o time64.o toke.o utf8.o util.o   miniperlmain.o  -lcrypt
       > ld: warning: -force_flat_namespace is no longer supported, using -flat_namespace instead
       > DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/private/tmp/nix-build-perl-5.40.0.drv-0/perl-5.40.0 ./miniperl -w -Ilib -Idist/Exporter/lib -MExporter -e '<?>' || sh -c 'echo >&2 Failed to build miniperl.  Please run make minitest; exit 1'
       > DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/private/tmp/nix-build-perl-5.40.0.drv-0/perl-5.40.0 ./miniperl -Ilib -f write_buildcustomize.pl
       > rm -f pod/perl5400delta.pod
       > /nix/store/amvqs92lary5dgr9rxmz89hhq6bnf3k3-coreutils-9.7/bin/ln -s perldelta.pod pod/perl5400delta.pod
       > DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/private/tmp/nix-build-perl-5.40.0.drv-0/perl-5.40.0 ./miniperl -Ilib autodoc.pl
       > make: *** [GNUmakefile:439: pod/perlintern.pod] Killed: 9
       For full logs, run:
         nix log /nix/store/g0csixy7mfs561pfwp27p1h41vkbp7w0-perl-5.40.0.drv
error: 1 dependencies of derivation '/nix/store/72q9z4rgdwxyybh9zy2pq5qs406mg43i-curl-8.16.0.drv' failed to build
error: 1 dependencies of derivation '/nix/store/2g7xwc34fr6h9kk7mwwbs1xc1h81lr8y-OpenJDK24U-jdk_aarch64_mac_hotspot_24.0.2_12.tar.gz.drv' failed to build
error: 1 dependencies of derivation '/nix/store/3l24g66zxa4bqjf3w6wykwcgrb7f3nnr-temurin-bin-24.0.2.drv' failed to build
16:41:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I'll have to look into the perl failure. anyway, just rebase it on the merge base. there's instructions in CONTRIBUTING.md 16:42:04
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilliganOK, cool. Will do.16:42:17
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan I need to switch gears for the rest of the day, but will try the merge-base and rebuild tomorrow. 16:43:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe'll probably have started the cycle by then, so… I can just hit merge and we can revert if it breaks16:52:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydoes anyone know re ^?16:52:34
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilliganI need to finish my “JDK dashboard” effort 😁16:53:41
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)I can take a look later today16:57:26
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilliganUsing my WIP dashboard script it seems that the following are "behind": 17.0.12 -> 17.0.16 11.0.24 -> 11.0.2817:05:17
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan (I ran that on aarch64-darwin, so it didn't check 8, I haven't updated it to check all platforms) 17:09:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycan we drop 8 yet 🫠17:11:21
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan *

Using my WIP dashboard script it seems that the following are "behind":
17.0.12 -> 17.0.16
11.0.24 -> 11.0.28

(This is for nixpkgs-unstable)

17:12:28
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan

On aarch64-linux against master, I'm getting:

{
  "corretto11": "11.0.26.4.1",
  "corretto17": "17.0.14.7.1",
  "corretto21": "21.0.6.7.1",
  "openjdk11": "11.0.27+6",
  "openjdk17": "17.0.16+8",
  "openjdk21": "21.0.8+9",
  "openjdk24": "24.0.2+12",
  "semeru-bin-11": "11.0.23",
  "semeru-bin-17": "17.0.9",
  "semeru-bin-21": "21.0.3",
  "semeru-jre-bin-11": "11.0.23",
  "semeru-jre-bin-17": "17.0.9",
  "semeru-jre-bin-21": "21.0.3",
  "temurin-bin-23": "23.0.2",
  "temurin-bin-24": "24.0.1",
  "temurin-jre-bin-11": "11.0.27",
  "temurin-jre-bin-17": "17.0.15",
  "temurin-jre-bin-21": "21.0.7",
  "temurin-jre-bin-23": "23.0.2",
  "temurin-jre-bin-24": "24.0.1",
  "zulu11": "11.0.24",
  "zulu17": "17.0.12",
  "zulu21": "21.0.8",
  "zulu24": "24.0.2"
}
17:14:06
@ami:the-apothecary.clubAmi
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
can we drop 8 yet 🫠
that would come rather suddenly... for now
17:15:14
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan * ~~On aarch64-linux against master, I'm getting~~ (Let me re-do this) 17:17:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit is not even a little bit sudden17:17:28
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilligan * On aarch64-linux against master, I'm getting (Let me re-do this) 17:17:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily7 years since the release of the LTS after it17:18:17
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilliganI think we should charge for it 🤣17:19:05
@ami:the-apothecary.clubAminow is definitely the time to move away from java 8 for things that haven't already, but it's not EOL yet17:21:50
@infinidoge:inx.moeInfinidoge 🏳️‍⚧️I have a $0 bet going with myself that Java 8 will somehow get an even more extended EOL date17:39:49
@msgilligan:matrix.orgmsgilliganAs long as companies are willing to pay for it...17:40:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's no rule that says distributions have to keep every piece of software until it goes EOL though. especially not 5 more years for a version that requires quite a lot of patching and derivation complexity already17:45:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe binaries are one thing since those are low-maintenance17:46:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyIIRC Debian already dropped 8 a while back17:46:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's not used by much in the tree. I think it is basically just old Minceraft versions that haven't had people patch them for newer Java already. which the binary would suffice fine for17:46:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyof course enterprises will probably pay to keep it alive until the sun goes out, but they're not paying Nixpkgs…17:47:09
@ami:the-apothecary.clubAmiyeah, sorry, should've phrased it differently, didn't mean to imply all of that17:49:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm just crabby about al lthe conditionals I ahd to add for 8 :P17:50:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyMinecraft folks should finish porting all the other versions so that nobody has use for it any more17:50:35

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