| 30 Oct 2024 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I used a standard non-NixOS Java environment with Gradle 7
| 17:28:34 |
 emily | ah | 17:29:48 |
| emily | I wonder if the AUR package is just broken | 17:30:20 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I did get around it by adding mavenCentral to the repositories in build.gradle, resulting in the variable scoping error mentioned earlier
| 17:30:44 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
no need to wait for branch-off Alright, I'll update this PR but keep it as a draft while you attempt to get it working
| 17:36:37 |
| emily | we should just jd-cli first among the alternatives presumably btw | 17:37:02 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) |
<@emilazy:matrix.org> no need to wait for branch-off
Alright, I'll update this PR to add a change note, but keep it as a draft while you attempt to get it working
| 17:37:08 |
| emily | seeing as it will have the same semantics as the GUI | 17:37:10 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Updated to include a changelog entry for 24.11, good luck :)
| 17:43:55 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Off-topic: Thoughts on a Java/JDK team so that the maintainers of the Java/JDK/Java build systems can be pinged on the next release blockers issue?
| 17:47:56 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Off-topic: Thoughts on a Java/JVM/JDK team so that the maintainers of the Java/JDK/Java build systems can be pinged on the next release blockers issue?
| 17:48:56 |
| emily | sounds like a good idea except for my fear that I will get dragged in 😂 | 17:48:58 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Created at https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/teams/jdk, I'll make a PR in a little bit
| 17:50:33 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Any volunteers? 😂
| 17:50:40 |
| emily | you'll need to get #org_owners:nixos.org to assign it to the Nixpkgs repository with triage permissions. you may also want to set it up in ci/OWNERS | 17:52:59 |
| emily | btw, perhaps just "Java" would be a better name? | 17:53:20 |
| emily | given "(JDK, JVM, Java, Gradle, Maven, Ant, and adjacent projects)" | 17:53:28 |
| emily | although, I guess there could be potential trademark weirdness… | 17:53:55 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Definitely. I picked JDK because it gives us the @NixOS/jdk handle, which matches this channel, but Java is definitely clearer
| 17:54:14 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Ant is unmaintained 🫠
| 17:55:02 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Looks like it should be okay according to their trademark guidelines (https://www.oracle.com/legal/trademarks/):
| 17:56:41 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) |
Oracle generally permits use of its marks in groups name that include phrases such as “user group,” “special interest group,” “lobby,” etc., that clarify the relationship between Oracle and the group and do not create confusion about the source of products.
| 17:56:52 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | (IANAL though)
| 17:57:22 |
| emily | ok Debian have a Java team so I'll say it's okay :) | 18:00:11 |
| emily | I hate that Java's idea of a package manager is downloading prebuilt binary blobs | 18:15:20 |
| emily | can we just rewrite every single Gradle build in the tree please? | 18:15:34 |
| emily | it turns out that our current deps.json literally cannot be reproduced | 18:18:06 |
| emily | because JCenter died and they just, killed all the jars I guess | 18:18:14 |
| emily | so even though I fixed it for modern Gradle there is just no way to get the jd-core JAR it wants except using the one we build ourselves and I am not sure I can be bothered to figure out how to tell Gradle to use something local | 18:18:47 |
| emily | bah. never mind I looked it up in a moment of weakness and it's easy. | 18:19:47 |
