| 24 Sep 2025 |
 emily | I don't know if it's a JDK term or just our term. but it gates the X11, GTK etc. dependencies | 15:31:54 |
| emily | like we just set the flag to build that stuff or not and give the dependencies or not based on that. | 15:32:12 |
| emily | because ideally a web server doesn't pull in GTK | 15:32:19 |
| emily | in an ideal world AWT/Swing are just a separate package you can pull in like JFX | 15:32:35 |
 msgilligan | Yeah, and probably the JDK modules for AWT, etc. rely on the dynamic libs being there but don't bundle them. But I don't know how that works. | 15:33:04 |
| msgilligan | * Yeah, and probably the JDK modules for AWT, etc. rely on the dynamic libs being there but don't bundle them (or provide e mechanism to install or link them.) But I don't know how that works. | 15:34:28 |
| msgilligan | * Yeah, and probably the JDK modules for AWT, etc. rely on the dynamic libs being there but don't bundle them (or provide a mechanism to install or link them.) I don't know how that part works. | 15:34:50 |
| emily | it looks like it might just be a matter of setting java.library.path or something. or patching to use System.load | 15:53:40 |
| emily | anyway, less important than JFX for sure. | 15:54:04 |
| emily | I guess it is maybe more difficult, because there is specific JNI C code. I don't really know how you do JNI linking to native libs in general | 15:55:33 |
| emily | oh, but it will do dlopen: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk25u/blob/master/src/java.desktop/unix/native/libawt_xawt/awt/gtk3_interface.c#L98 | 15:56:53 |
| emily | so actually you can totally provide it GTK at runtime only. cool. | 15:57:00 |
| msgilligan | Looks like Temurin 25 is almost ready. I'm updating the draft PR now. aarch64-linux seems to be the only thing missing. | 15:57:04 |
| msgilligan | I assume we can't merge it until aarch64-linux is there? | 15:57:42 |
| emily | I think we could do that without splitting it out of the JDK package – just always build the stuff, but don't link it directly against GTK, and it'll only work if you have it on the library path at runtime. | 15:57:47 |
| emily | as in, they haven't put up the binaries yet? I'd wait, yeah. | 15:58:05 |
| msgilligan | Yeah. I think all the others we care about are there. (x64 linux, and both x64 and aarch64 darwin are there) | 15:58:58 |
| msgilligan | I'll update the PR anyway, so the ones that are there can run through CI | 15:59:54 |
| emily | the CI "resets" every time you push anyway | 16:03:01 |
| emily | so no rush there | 16:03:06 |
| emily | well, I guess it avoids the actual build since it'll have it cached, but the real slow part is waiting for the queue… | 16:03:20 |
| msgilligan | nix build .#temurin-bin-25 .#temurin-jre-bin-25 seems to have produced runnable java and javac | 16:03:27 |
| msgilligan | I already pushed the update | 16:03:46 |
| msgilligan | Redacted or Malformed Event | 16:04:10 |
| msgilligan | I'm only adding 25, not included the updates to the other versions which are (hopefully) making there way to unstable. | 16:04:39 |
| msgilligan | * I'm only adding 25, not including the updates to the other versions which are (hopefully) making there way to unstable. | 16:04:49 |
| msgilligan | * I'm only adding 25, not including the updates to the other versions which are (hopefully) making their way to unstable. | 16:05:00 |
| msgilligan | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/443894/files | 16:05:44 |
| msgilligan | nixpkgs-review on aarch64-darwin passed. | 16:09:43 |
| msgilligan | Is there a way to do something like this as a shell one-liner:
nix shell 'nixpkgs#gradle_9.override { jdk = nixpkgs.zulu25; }'
| 19:31:20 |
