| 24 May 2024 |
 Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | It provided binaries, so it served a purpose, it's just long been replaced by Temurin.
The main issue is that Temurin doesn't provide those older binary releases to maintain the bootstrap chain as it is | 17:20:13 |
 bendlas | Anyway, I'll check back once I get to a bootstrapped icedtea2 / jdk8, and as I said, happy to accept help ... | 17:20:16 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I think a bootstrap chain can definitely work, it'll just need to be a replacement for the existing broken one that doesn't rely on the existing binaries | 17:21:04 |
| bendlas | In reply to @infinidoge:inx.moe
It provided binaries, so it served a purpose, it's just long been replaced by Temurin.
The main issue is that Temurin doesn't provide those older binary releases to maintain the bootstrap chain as it is interesting, I wasn't aware of temurin so far. | 17:21:06 |
| bendlas | In reply to @infinidoge:inx.moe
I think a bootstrap chain can definitely work, it'll just need to be a replacement for the existing broken one that doesn't rely on the existing binaries that's the whole idea. It's kind of hilarious, the contortion necessary to bootstrap pre jdk7, but at least it can be done. | 17:22:04 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to@bendlas:matrix.org
interesting, I wasn't aware of temurin so far. Temurin provides the binaries used to build all modern OpenJDK from source in Nixpkgs
It's definitely the go-to place for Java on Windows | 17:22:33 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | (Java.org needs to perish) | 17:22:41 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | Wait not .org | 17:22:49 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | .net? .com? I forget | 17:22:53 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | Whatever the oracle website is that keeps advertising the latest version of Java 8 | 17:23:07 |
| bendlas | since oracle took over it's anyway very meh. at least they can't do too much to openjdk and that was already pretty good. | 17:24:10 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to@infinidoge:inx.moe
image.png For clarity this doesn't actually usually build the full bootstrap chain, it defaults to adoptopenjdk instead where possible, so it doesn't serve much of a bootstrapping purpose anyways | 17:24:59 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | It only builds it from source on unsupported platforms | 17:25:05 |
