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@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Looks that way. oraclejre was v8, jre is presumably whatever the latest in Nixpkgs is

04:45:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah. should probably pin it to 804:47:37
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Looks that way. oraclejre was v8, jre is presumably whatever the latest in Nixpkgs is (hopefully not 8)

04:47:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywow, this software is actually at the latest version.04:48:22
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

The tempatation to change the last commit message to oracle{jdk,jre}: dehaunt (drop)

04:52:47
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Removing 416 lines from Nixpkgs is cathartic04:54:01
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Should we continue to have a javaPackages attrset?

04:55:24
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

I'm wondering if we should drop Docear haha: https://github.com/BeelGroup/Docear-Desktop

06:13:44
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Officially (according to a comment on the issue tracker that is linked nowhere on the website), they only support OracleJDK, but people have been using OpenJDK without issues

06:14:58
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org

Should we continue to have a javaPackages attrset?

it will be compatibility stubs by 25.05 if I have my way
06:15:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily the only reason OpenJDK isn't already by-name is that I need to teach it Darwin 06:15:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org

I'm wondering if we should drop Docear haha: https://github.com/BeelGroup/Docear-Desktop

what's droppable about this repo?
06:15:46
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

No commits in 7 years, activity in the issues section has dropped (one issue in 2023, one in 2021, 4 in 2020, and so on)

06:16:49
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)If it doesn't actually work with OpenJDK that could be another reason06:17:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://docear.org/docear/blog/ I like how the two latest updates are identical06:17:53
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell06:17:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyabout an identical component06:18:00
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm more concerned about dropping the Atlassian stuff06:18:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35304906:18:35
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Apparently Docear is a fork of JabRef?? https://github.com/BeelGroup/Docear-Desktop/issues/483#issuecomment-177749524

06:19:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysince that seems to have gone a long time without security updates historically06:19:07
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)

Yeah that's very troubling, I hope nobody is relying on that in production

06:19:27
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylooks like they rather integrate a fork of JabRef or something06:19:40
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@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Yet another reason for us to use by-name: take a look at "sqldeveloper" in all-packages.nix18:08:21
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)Gotta love cobwebby dependencies on security disasters18:08:38
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)I wonder what the world would be like if these megacorporations with thousands of employees hired someone to maintain their Nix expressions in Nixpkgs18:13:34
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* I wonder what the world would be like if these megacorporations with tens of thousands of employees hired someone to maintain their Nix expressions in Nixpkgs18:13:49
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Yet another reason for us to use by-name: take a look at "sqldeveloper" in all-packages.nix (hint: it's an obscured dependency on oraclejdk)18:19:12
@tomodachi94:matrix.orgTomodachi94 (they/them)* Yet another reason for using by-name: take a look at "sqldeveloper" in all-packages.nix (hint: it's an obscured dependency on oraclejdk)18:44:22

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