| 2 Nov 2024 |
 emily | and the worst cloud | 01:43:41 |
| emily | and uhh, MySQL | 01:43:47 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh and Solaris apparently!? | 01:44:38 |
| emily | yes, they bought Sun | 01:44:45 |
| emily | commercial Solaris is ~irrelevant now though: all the actual people who made it great are working on Illumos and derivatives now | 01:45:17 |
| emily | (fka OpenSolaris) | 01:45:22 |
| emily | their ZFS has diverged from the OpenZFS everyone uses, etc. | 01:45:35 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Fun times we live in | 01:46:04 |
| emily | 
Download image.png | 01:46:23 |
| emily | let me download the damn JDK! | 01:46:26 |
| emily | I'm quite sure nobody is using this JavaCard thing because it's impossible to | 01:46:39 |
| emily | the site literally won't let you download the Oracle JDK version we require | 01:47:05 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh, good thing I'm about to submit a PR that drops it | 01:47:38 |
| emily | okay the link in https://gist.github.com/wavezhang/ba8425f24a968ec9b2a8619d7c2d86a6?permalink_comment_id=3601058#gistcomment-3601058 works | 01:47:45 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Should we migrate javacard-devkit to by-name in the PR that makes it use OpenJDK /hj | 01:48:55 |
| emily | you gotta just delete it 😂 | 01:49:45 |
| emily | it does seem to run after jumping through those 50 hoops and it pointing me to URLs that no longer contain the ancient downloads | 01:51:03 |
| emily | but, given that there's newer versions that work on Linux and this package has been untouched since it was dumped into the tree in 2018 I see no good reason to keep it | 01:51:43 |
| emily | clearly nobody is looking after it | 01:52:49 |
| emily | putting work into it seems counterproductive | 01:53:00 |
| emily | if you want to just s/oraclejdk/jdk/ that's fine though | 01:53:20 |
| emily | but if it ever breaks I highly doubt we will hear about it | 01:53:41 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | In reply to@emilazy:matrix.org
okay the link in https://gist.github.com/wavezhang/ba8425f24a968ec9b2a8619d7c2d86a6?permalink_comment_id=3601058#gistcomment-3601058 works I love that there's parts of the thread that are just "Use https://adoptopenjdk.net" | 01:55:15 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | In reply to@emilazy:matrix.org
putting work into it seems counterproductive Yeah that seems reasonable. Let's drop it, I'm not sure if there are maintained alternatives | 01:56:25 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | * Yeah that seems reasonable. Let's drop it, I'm not sure if there are even maintained alternatives | 01:56:41 |
| emily | the maintained alternative is the upstream | 01:56:41 |
| emily | if someone wants to package the latest version they can do so | 01:56:49 |
| emily | gotta resist the mentality of being responsible for every package that the maintainers clearly haven't taken responsibility for | 01:58:37 |
| emily | a lesson I am bad at internalizing myself | 01:58:44 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | If not for the listed maintainer that hasn't touched it since 2018, it would be eligible for dropping under that new RFC too | 02:02:19 |
