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| 8 Apr 2025 |
 emily | samasaur: could you maybe take a look at https://hydra.nixos.org/build/294329205/nixlog/1 ? | 10:15:17 |
| emily | looks like it was caused by your PR | 10:16:30 |
 samasaur | ah i see it | 20:25:09 |
| samasaur | looks like it has already been fixed: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7a14f3c857ac979132b782e82b0f5979a833dcc3 | 20:25:14 |
| emily | yeah we were discussing it in #staging:nixos.org | 20:32:40 |
| samasaur | I'm not sure how that happened, I know I tested building these locally, and I can't really imagine how this bug would have been introduced when I rebased onto stagin | 20:32:51 |
| samasaur | * I'm not sure how that happened, I know I tested building these locally, and I can't really imagine how this bug would have been introduced when I rebased onto staging | 20:32:54 |
| samasaur | just checked and apparently the symlink was broken before my rebase too but the build was successful anyway? baffling | 20:55:46 |
| emily | oh, I think the symlink check was tweaked for Darwin this cycle | 20:59:24 |
| emily | something about how symlinks can have their own permissions in XNU | 20:59:31 |
| samasaur | ah gotcha | 21:02:33 |
| samasaur | i learned that recently, although permissions on the link itself don't seem to be consistently applied | 21:02:52 |
| samasaur | stat and cat are able to follow a link even after i chmod it to 000 and chown it to root, but readlink/realpath and ls/eza cannot | 21:03:06 |
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| 19 Apr 2025 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Did we ever decide if the Java team has any blocking items for 25.05? | 02:15:00 |
 FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | OpenJDK 23 is EOL now/soon, so that would be good to drop. Though OpenJDK 24 will also be EOL in the release cycle. Do we have a policy for non-LTS JDK versions on stable? | 07:58:37 |
| emily | it goes EOL like a month before the release goes out of support right? | 12:04:05 |
| emily | I think knownVulnerabilities would be the thing to do, but it's possible the next round of advisories will come after it goes out of support anyway. | 12:04:38 |
| emily | IMO we should just have a rolling openjdk_latest rather than per-version packages for non-LTS, but this has been discussed in here a bunch before and it seems some Java projects are both bleeding edge and incapable of keeping off EOL versions so there is some discontent about even not keeping around dead versions... | 12:05:56 |
| emily | do we actually have latest versions of the LTSes? they were vulnerable last I checked | 12:06:18 |
| emily | (and JFX?) | 12:06:28 |
| emily | BTW, Bazel 5 is also already EOL… | 15:03:41 |
| emily | (and there was the Gradle stuff right?) | 15:03:49 |
| 20 Apr 2025 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Yep. As I understand it, it's very plausible that Gradle 7 goes EOL during the support period for 25.05 | 00:16:28 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Based on what's currently in their issue tracker, I don't think Gradle 9 will be released before 25.05 | 00:17:54 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | (Nearly 200 entries on their release candidate milestone for Gradle 9.0) | 00:18:16 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh and there's also Maven 4 which is getting released sometime, possibly this year? | 00:22:48 |
| emily | right. well FWIW Bazel 5 is only used in the TensorFlow source build that we aren't using by default right now anyway (and which the open PRs to bump move past Bazel 5). | 00:24:40 |
